i don't like that song either, i think the song is rather cheesy. esp since that sample was already famous from the Saprano's theme song it just made it even cheesier.

he's influential but not the most,

yeah i'll admit the fact that i always hear mainstream rappers that are average eg. Ja Rule, 50 Cent, T.I i could go on and on refer to Tupac and say how they're just like tupac all the damn time has a little bit to do with it. Also Tupac turned hip hop very violent when he joined Death Row, all the shit talking, beating people with Suge Knight, and the constant rapping about Thug Life, i remember as a kid all the little kids in elementary imitating rappers like him and starting their own little gangs in school. What also pisses me off is when Tupac makes some "deep" emotional song but then he'll go on the news and say he's not a role model for anyone which is bullshit, of course he's a role model. He's not in my top 10 anyway, he has some good songs, and he's a good poet i think coz he knows how to make emotional songs and i think that's why so many people like him. Of course there are all the other annoying fans that like him because they think he's "gangsta" and they wanna be "thugs" just like him. Now i know there's some whole philosophy around Thugs that tupac made but the kids that like him for being a thug probably don't even know or care about that.

What makes you say that? Almost everyone would agree that he's the most influential, the most imitated MC of all time.

Oh, so there was no violence in Hip Hop before Tupac? Come on now..

You don't really know what he meant by Thug Life, do you?

i never said that, i guess suge was to blame for that too though