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I_Guy Date: Tuesday, 21/Apr/09, 1:52 AM | Message # 1

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Religious folks need to give up.


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I_Guy Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 1:49 AM | Message # 151

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But why???????????????????

Because that would be blind faith if we didn't.


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s0dr2 Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 1:50 AM | Message # 152

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Because penises can fly!

you know....this is what im' talking about when i say be humble....you should be humble and serious, striving to know the truth, something you apparently aren't doing


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I_Guy Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 1:51 AM | Message # 153

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explain, im not getting this

What I mean is, I realize you paralleled religion's history with that comment. Now in the history of religion, we don't know for sure if any of the occurrences really happened.


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I_Guy Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 1:52 AM | Message # 154

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Let me ask you something Sodr, Why are there so many gospels left out of the bible???

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I_Guy Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 1:53 AM | Message # 155

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Also, the idea of a messiah is laughable because human race cannot be saved.

You're speaking some nihilism there buddy.


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I_Guy Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 1:58 AM | Message # 156

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wasn't it cause the "scholars" took some out and put in what they felt sounded good ?

Pretty much. Now if the bible is the truth, then I wonder where the rest of that truth went. Because as I understand it, half of the truth is missing.


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s0dr2 Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 1:58 AM | Message # 157

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Let me ask you something Sodr, Why are there so many gospels left out of the bible???

i fail to see how this relates to anything....those gospels are just not labeled as divinely inspired, by the leaders of the church

Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. (John 21:25)


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eboyd Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 1:59 AM | Message # 158

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As in how they try to limit science in schools (although they usually fail do to some of the rational minds in control). And how primarily creationism and apologetics bash science in an attempt to make science seem evil. Creationism straight out lies about science to make it seem evil. And because of what I have said numerous times: it restrains humanity in far too many ways.

OK, i can't really argue with that.

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I claim for certain that I exist............am I not humble???

actually, you aren't if you believe that you certainly exist. an idealist would argue against this to the hilt.

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Science, Religion, Psychology, Philosphy, etc..

All of these ideals put limits on what is.

None of these reveal the truth

THANK YOU!

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how can you say they don't reveal the truth?? that's just being closed minded

on the contrary, believing anything is an absolute truth without considering the possibility of it being erroneous is closed mindedness.

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Who's to say what the "truth" really is?

As of now, we have only theories and ideas.

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You speak for all Christian people?

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s0dr2 Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 2:02 AM | Message # 159

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you mean a guy that was trying to bring order to his city? wasn't that why the bible was made or mabe im mistaking it with something else

huh?

what city? what guy?

CAN ANYONE NAME ME THE MAJOR EVENTS DURING THE REIGN OF THE TALIBAN????????


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I_Guy Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 2:03 AM | Message # 160

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i fail to see how this relates to anything....those gospels are just not labeled as divinely inspired, by the leaders of the church

Because I'm tired of you questioning what is reasonable. It's time to start questioning what is unreasonable. Although I lack the ambition to question, I will if you don't realize your own blindness. Believe me, there are mountains equaling what I can confront you on about religion.


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EmSeeD Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 2:05 AM | Message # 161

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People don't even know where Jesus' tomb is located

well it was thousands of years ago in a country where people didn't even accept Jesus and christians were looked down on.


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I_Guy Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 2:06 AM | Message # 162

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those gospels are just not labeled as divinely inspired, by the leaders of the church

But isn't the bible god's word? How can that be determined by man judging the work of other men?


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s0dr2 Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 2:06 AM | Message # 163

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What I mean is, I realize you paralleled religion's history with that comment. Now in the history of religion, we don't know for sure if any of the occurrences really happened.

i wanna get back to this comment....

the Bible mentions things like rulers of the time....eg. Nebuchadnezzar, tibereas ceasar, etc....here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Judah#The_Kings_of_Judah


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s0dr2 Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 2:07 AM | Message # 164

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But isn't the bible god's word? How can that be determined by man judging the work of other men?

read the bible passage!

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The Book Of Mormon (which is all full of shit)

are you joking?

you're putting up the b.o.m. against the Bible? this is getting us no where


"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain

I_Guy Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 2:08 AM | Message # 165

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Dude, anyone with an open-mind recognizes that humanity will not stop killing each other, regardless of religious (or lack thereof) view.

I'm not talking about us getting rid of each other. I'm talking about the distractions that religions create on the minds of potentially brilliant people who should be focusing on what strengthens humanity, not what dooms it (apocalypse -one of Christianity's main focuses) or what we must do to (falsely) reclaim it (repentance -another main focus of religion).


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