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Religion: Real or Fake
I_Guy Date: Tuesday, 21/Apr/09, 1:52 AM | Message # 1

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What began this thread:
http://realhiphop4ever.ucoz.com/forum/12-1890-1

Religious folks need to give up.


We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
s0dr2 Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 3:48 AM | Message # 211

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this is why i can't believe in religion cause every religion i learned about told me the same thing

wtf???

i have reasons, they dont....how do you refute christianity?

you can easily refute mormonism, jehovah's witness, polytheism, etc

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Of course no book is exactly like the bible. There isn't another book like any of the holy books of the world. None of them are alike.

no......you're escaping the question

no book matches the level of the Bible in terms of facts


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ill Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 8:05 AM | Message # 212

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sodr what the fuck are you on about man, how can you descredit a god with 8 arms when he's as real as your god? you see these other religions and you laugh, take a step back and thats how i see christianity too. but ok no book has "facts" like the bible, you can trace the geaneology from adam to joseph in the bible and it spans about 4000 years, thats when jesus was born so add another and you got 6000 years, so from these facts the earth must be 6000 years old right? or we gonna smooth over the facts the dont comply with the argument dry

http://www.missiontoamerica.com/genesis/six-thousand-years.html


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s0dr2 Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 12:23 PM | Message # 213

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how can you descredit a god with 8 arms when he's as real as your god?

wow....i finally see the problem now (at least for you)......ignorance

if a god is material (ie having arms) then you can measure him....he would be detectable....plus what kind of god is material?????? then it would only be idols

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so from these facts the earth must be 6000 years old right? or we gonna smooth over the facts the dont comply with the argument dry

does it have to be?? god created this world....time passed....God created adam and eve, what's so complicated

you have to swear and insult me, but for the millionth time, i beg you to look into Christianity with an open mind

p.s. ill not be replying anymore in this thread cause i dont wanna have to keep finding the link for it...


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ill Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 12:43 PM | Message # 214

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im the ignorant one when your telling me theres no way of that god existing? that god has brought mircales just like your god so how can he not exist, that is the argument you make when we say YOUR god isnt real its a joke how you just flip the argument to suit you, everything you say against their gods goes with the same counter argument when people ask the same of your god

and what do you mean does it have to be? you can take the 7 day creation as a metaphor but humans have been around alot longer then 6000 years.


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eboyd Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 1:01 PM | Message # 215

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if a god is material (ie having arms) then you can measure him....he would be detectable....plus what kind of god is material?????? then it would only be idols

this is the best argument you have raised yet, but it's still refutable. it just proves that they don't believe in their God's omnipresence.

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i beg you to look into Christianity with an open mind

i do. i just do not feel that things you take as logical and factual are actually logical and factual. they may be. i don't know. we may never know. i just find that what i believe is more logical. maybe someone (maybe even you) will prove me wrong some day.


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Menace Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 5:21 PM | Message # 216

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wow....i finally see the problem now (at least for you)......ignorance

if a god is material (ie having arms) then you can measure him....he would be detectable....plus what kind of god is material?????? then it would only be idols

LOL that's laughable you base your belief system on faith other religions the same on faith so you can't discredit them as they can't discredit you LOL you are a fool sodr2 and other religions have prophets and people who are historically proven too that doesn't resolve anything


I_Guy Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 6:41 PM | Message # 217

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Man, sodr isn't even that bad. I just think about the millions of people out there who are just like him and worse. That's terrifying to me because I strive for a completely rational world. It may never be, but the removal of religion is the first step. That's one of the major problems with schools, they don't teach critical thinking very well. Instead they fill our heads with a bunch of mostly useless expirable facts that can be easily looked up anywhere at any time, especially in this age. You can't just go look up reason or logic. That's the kind of shit they need to teach, because with those kinds of tools you can defeat almost anything, and you will learn much faster. But instead they don't, so we have a bunch of determined guys like sodr, who always think they're right and fail to see the other side of their ill-logic. Sheeeit....

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ill Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 6:47 PM | Message # 218

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word man, 1up for you

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I_Guy Date: Tuesday, 28/Apr/09, 10:39 PM | Message # 219

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I-Guy how old are you? Im curious.

19, why?


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eboyd Date: Wednesday, 29/Apr/09, 4:27 AM | Message # 220

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LMFAO!!!!!! lol


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ill Date: Thursday, 30/Apr/09, 9:21 PM | Message # 221

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lets keep it hip hop biggrin



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eboyd Date: Thursday, 30/Apr/09, 9:54 PM | Message # 222

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Yeah thats real funny man. So are you throwing officially your hat into this now?

Man I'm over this.

no, i thought that some of the things that were said in that video were hilarious. you guys bring good arguments, but sometimes i hear arguments, both from atheists and creationists, that are absolutely retarded. it just so happens that a majority of the ridiculous stuff said is from the creationist side. i haven't heard an argument that ridiculous out of you or sodr. the main thing i find funny in that video is the perception SOME creationists have of people who don't believe in God. yeah, i go around having homosexual orgies, killing people, etc., etc., and so do the majority of atheists lol

seriously man, calm down, please. i'm not sitting here making comments like "religious people are idiots!" if it makes you feel better, here's an argument presented by a group of creationists that i found somewhat intriguing:

i've seen some atheist videos that can't match this in the least.


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eboyd Date: Thursday, 30/Apr/09, 10:02 PM | Message # 223

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true, but it's not just the kids man. there are a shit ton of ignorant and/or arrogant atheists and theists that range from 15-75 years old. take two examples, one from each side: Richard Dawkins and Kent Hovind. two very arrogant people, both much to old to be as immature and arrogant as they are. unfortunately both are considered two of the leading voices in each movement. age has nothing to do with maturity, however, kids do tend to be MUCH more immature.

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AgentX Date: Thursday, 30/Apr/09, 11:04 PM | Message # 224

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So true. That is why we separated this forum from the rest of the site. That way you can say what the fuck you want and anyone who chooses to come here is doing so at their own risk as stated in the forum description. Idk man. All I know is that it would be just as bad to ban religious conversation. We need to keep it balanced.

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Oops! I meant to let E post that!!! biggrin in the case that I posted that I need to add in something dickish! You're a faggot! lol


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EmSeeD Date: Thursday, 30/Apr/09, 11:07 PM | Message # 225

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yo pensmoke you got a battle with NtG

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