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Religion: Real or Fake
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| I_Guy |
Date: Tuesday, 21/Apr/09, 1:52 AM | Message # 1 |
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What began this thread:
http://realhiphop4ever.ucoz.com/forum/12-1890-1 Religious folks need to give up.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
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| Menace |
Date: Saturday, 02/May/09, 10:42 AM | Message # 241 |
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Quote (Pensmoke) In a word.....no. You can post all the videos in the world expressing your worldview and the worldview of those like you. It don't phase me man. Disrespect against me personally is the only thing that annoys me. It's weak. Little sucker-punch type jabs thrown into threads aimed at me because of what I believe. My point is that this website is very one-sided in it's worldview. There is no BALANCE. In the long run your one-sidedness will keep people who don't fit into your little "clique" from participating in this movement. Those here who ARE Christians or Muslims or any who actually believe in God are talked down to by people who honestly aint all that and have no business talking down to anybody. this WEBSITE is not one sided people freely post whatever they want that's what happens when people INTERACT when a mass of people interact such discussions are bound to occur its not about this WEBSITE that's what HAPPENS when people gather and spend a considerable time in one place and if some theists feel ashamed by this website i personally invite them out to explore other major hip hop websites and get bitten and cursed every 5 minutes and the people who actually start this kind of things are the RELIGIOUS people who leave ridiculous or disrespectful comments on these particular threads who then mask their comments as jokes Quote (I_Guy) Furthermore, current traditions are fine. As long as they are relevant to our time then sure, keep them alive. But once they expire, let'em go. TRADITION is not BAD but when tradition/religion influence our political and social climate then things need to change we got people like Bill O'Reilly talking about the traditional White Christian Power Structure that was destroyed by electing Obama and we got theocratic leaning people like Palin who wants to be the vice president this shit is CRAZY WE HAVE DIFFERENT CULTURES and BELIEFS but when one culture suppresses another shit is not good we got people who are influenced by personal belief in judicial matters CULTURE and TRADITION and BELIEF must stay out of things regarding justice , social matters and politics because your traditional values don't apply to the majority because they have other values because WE HAVE DIFFERENT CULTURES and beliefs just like that same sex marriage thing that's a JUDICIAL things that has nothing to do whit religion or personal belief it has to do whit the LAW
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| Menace |
Date: Saturday, 02/May/09, 1:20 PM | Message # 242 |
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Quote (Pensmoke) How many believers are there in proportion to non believers? Isn't that obviously cause for automatic one-sidedness? there are more Atheists yes but this website CAN'T be on sided because this website its a entity of itself if major atheists leave this website maybe they will leave at one time this website will still exist whit the others that are theists and it will be a theist majority so the website has nothing to do whit religion people freely post religion threads cause they want to
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| I_Guy |
Date: Saturday, 02/May/09, 5:32 PM | Message # 243 |
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Quote (Pensmoke) Surely you're not gonna suggest that the 'debates' (used loosely) have always been civil and sophisticated.
There have been some fuck ups in the past, but there is not much wrong with this particular thread. Quote (Pensmoke) It's not subjective its obvious to anyone reading
That's hard to know. Quote (Pensmoke) Eastern Band or CNO? Or unenrolled? Not that it matters, just for clarification purposes
I'm not enrolled as a Cherokee. I'm enrolled as a Potawatomi in Prairie Band.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
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| s0dr2 |
Date: Saturday, 02/May/09, 5:40 PM | Message # 244 |
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u guys just ignored what i said? (besides erica)
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Sunday, 03/May/09, 2:41 AM | Message # 245 |
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i'm not that good with apologetics but this guy is pretty good at defending christianity he's KabaneTheChristian and also Kabane52 and he's also actually a YouTube Partner, i'll embed his entire channel here:
http://chirbit.com/emseed
http://youtube.com/siwooot
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| s0dr2 |
Date: Monday, 04/May/09, 3:39 PM | Message # 246 |
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AS i said b4... Quote (Menace) LOL that's laughable you base your belief system on faith other religions the same on faith so you can't discredit them as they can't discredit you
no.....i base my beliefs on the Bible (--->***NOT***<--- one book), like many other religions that follow a book that contains no facts. ...name me one religious book that contains historical facts. look at the Bible, Jesus really existed and His story is told all over the world even by non christians, the only differencce is the people of other religions do not believe that He was ressurected.... all the kings in the Bible really existed and the people who wrote down the stories did not get together and collaborate on the Bible (like you can say for other religious texts)... it was written by different people from different place and at different times.... if it wasn't really what happened then how did they all get the same story the same way? Jesus fulfilled all the prophecies and God has revealed Himself several times throughout history and all witnesses and testimonies are recorded in the BIble (again, NOT one book, try 40+)...the only you're not willing to believe is because you don't want to, and resort in calling me a fool and dismissing everything i'm trying to say & laughing at it. i cant stress this enough, but you must take the idea of God/religion seriously....if you strive to know the truth you'll find it Quote (Menace) you are a fool sodr2 and other religions have prophets and people who are historically proven too that doesn't resolve anything
name one that have as many as Christianity. or even better. just name one and we'll discuss. Quote (I_Guy) Man, sodr isn't even that bad. I just think about the millions of people out there who are just like him and worse. That's terrifying to me because I strive for a completely rational world. It may never be, but the removal of religion is the first step. That's one of the major problems with schools, they don't teach critical thinking very well. Instead they fill our heads with a bunch of mostly useless expirable facts that can be easily looked up anywhere at any time, especially in this age. You can't just go look up reason or logic. That's the kind of shit they need to teach, because with those kinds of tools you can defeat almost anything, and you will learn much faster. But instead they don't, so we have a bunch of determined guys like sodr, who always think they're right and fail to see the other side of their ill-logic. Sheeeit....
oh, so now I'm BAD?? only because i believe the Bible is the literal truth taken in it's correct context?? +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ Anyways, you know what's sad? My brother was debating with a Jehovah's Witness in school during free class for two days now. Jehovah's witness, being a cult with several holes in their faith, my bro dominated the argument....when today she said her parents won't allow it anymore (I don't think she did either) !! WTF....THAT"S what I call being closed minded
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
Message edited by sodr2 - Monday, 04/May/09, 3:42 PM
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| Menace |
Date: Monday, 04/May/09, 3:45 PM | Message # 247 |
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Quote (sodr2) no.....i base my beliefs on the Bible (--->***NOT***<--- one book), like many other religions that follow a book that contains no facts. ...name me one religious book that contains historical facts. Quote (sodr2)
name one that have as many as Christianity. or even better. just name one and we'll discuss. you really don't know any history do you ?? wooow i never saw such lack of history ain't even reply to what you will say cause i am shocked your knowledge of history is unimaginably small
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| s0dr2 |
Date: Wednesday, 06/May/09, 1:49 PM | Message # 248 |
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Quote (Menace) you really don't know any history do you ?? wooow i never saw such lack of history ain't even reply to what you will say cause i am shocked your knowledge of history is unimaginably small
amazing... ***YOU*** SAAAAAAID: Quote (menace) you are a fool sodr2 and other religions have prophets and people who are historically proven too that doesn't resolve anything OKAY???????? DOES YOUR BRAIN HURT SO FAR??????? NOW, BEAR WITH ME......I AM ASKING YOU TO NAME ME --->>>***ONE***<<<--- RELIGION THAT YOU CLAIM HAS PROPHETS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE HISTORICALLY PROVEN..... PLEASE IT'S NOT HARD, how is it that u cant answer my question??
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
Message edited by sodr2 - Wednesday, 06/May/09, 1:51 PM
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| ill |
Date: Wednesday, 06/May/09, 4:27 PM | Message # 249 |
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judaism 
The World Is Yours
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| ShadowFire |
Date: Wednesday, 06/May/09, 7:24 PM | Message # 250 |
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Quote (sodr2) NOW, BEAR WITH ME......I AM ASKING YOU TO NAME ME --->>>***ONE***<<<--- RELIGION THAT YOU CLAIM HAS PROPHETS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE HISTORICALLY PROVEN..... i'm not so sure if the prophets in the bible have been historically proven, is there any proof they existed? any proof the kings of Israel existed?
The Light in the Shadows
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Message edited by ShadowFire - Wednesday, 06/May/09, 7:24 PM
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| ill |
Date: Thursday, 07/May/09, 5:57 PM | Message # 251 |
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Emcees
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ba la boom? ba la BAM boyy
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| s0dr2 |
Date: Saturday, 09/May/09, 11:28 AM | Message # 252 |
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Quote (ShadowFire) i'm not so sure if the prophets in the bible have been historically proven, is there any proof they existed? any proof the kings of Israel existed?
okay, good questioning....here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Judah#The_Kings_of_Judah its fact, not fiction like 99% of the religions out there in their holy books
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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| ill |
Date: Saturday, 09/May/09, 11:42 AM | Message # 253 |
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Emcees
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the level of hypocrisy is over 9000 i heard
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| Menace |
Date: Monday, 11/May/09, 8:46 AM | Message # 254 |
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Heads
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Quote (sodr2) its fact, not fiction like 99% of the religions out there in their holy books 70% of the historical facts from the bible are taken from the Torah and the Jewish religion you fail miserably to recognize the universality of religion that's why i call you a sectarian because you deny everything and everyone exact like someone that's in a sect or a religious fundamentalist
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| ill |
Date: Monday, 11/May/09, 9:30 AM | Message # 255 |
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Emcees
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may aswell close this hes just looking for attention
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