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ThaScience Date: Tuesday, 02/Jun/09, 9:24 PM | Message # 31

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sorry to but in.. how many generations ago was the native indian in ur fam Eric. wink

eboyd Date: Wednesday, 03/Jun/09, 0:11 AM | Message # 32

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That wasn't an issue bro. I wasn't using that as an argument. but if you insist, it was quite some time ago and it is very miniscule.

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EmSeeD Date: Wednesday, 03/Jun/09, 1:02 AM | Message # 33

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Just because Scandinavians do not celebrate their viking heritage does not mean that they do not feel mocked by the symbols used for the Minnesota Vikings football team. Now, on the question of whether it is right or wrong to portray a culture on symbolically through a sports team using charicatures I suspend judgment because I do not believe in moral objectivity.

Vikings is no where near as bad as Redskins, in NZ we have a team called The Crusaders but they're called that because of the whole Warrior thing, same as Vikings, but i mean Red Skins wtf??? wacko that ones gotta go


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eboyd Date: Wednesday, 03/Jun/09, 1:19 AM | Message # 34

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Dude, I already said that one has to go. Redskins = Niggers, but Chiefs, Indians, Seminoles, etc. = Vikings, Fighting Irish...

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ThaScience Date: Wednesday, 03/Jun/09, 9:09 AM | Message # 35

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Just because Scandinavians do not celebrate their viking heritage does not mean that they do not feel mocked by the symbols used for the Minnesota Vikings football team. Now, on the question of whether it is right or wrong to portray a culture on symbolically through a sports team using charicatures I suspend judgment because I do not believe in moral objectivity.

im scandanavian and i dont really care what some americans do about the viking heritage, i jus look at is like the americans have no culture themselves as they steal it from the rest of the world. cool

n also, this isnt much of my business.. u can quote me on that after if u want. but i dnt think u should take any credit for being part native indian as u look like ur danish or something to me. i got spanish n portuguese from only 3-4 generations ago but i dont take any credit or notice of that when lets say spain won euro 2008. its just dumb its where U are from n ur parents. now i have cousins who r half swedish half spanish thats good for them but i wouldnt say i am. i wouldnt look any more down the line after 2 generations.. and im guessing u havent got a great grandfather whos naive indian right


I_Guy Date: Thursday, 04/Jun/09, 1:16 AM | Message # 36

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If we want Natives to break the stereotype then Natives need to stop portraying themselves as the stereotype. The only way to break a stereotype is to do something radical. You see how the black struggles went unnoticed for decades until they started being radical. The same will be for the Native if Native's don't start doing something more highly charged. Everyone is under white rule, so you have to disrupt the flow to be noticed.

Natives just need to chill and be happy they're sucking their long overdue money back from the white man through casinos.


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EmSeeD Date: Thursday, 04/Jun/09, 1:27 AM | Message # 37

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If we want Natives to break the stereotype

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Natives just need to chill and be happy they're sucking their long overdue money back from the white man through casinos.

lol i thought that was the stereotype biggrin


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I_Guy Date: Thursday, 04/Jun/09, 1:33 AM | Message # 38

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Natives just need to chill and be happy they're sucking their long overdue money back from the white man through casinos.

One of them, but my point exactly, but we all know the effects of it.

Although what is interesting is that the above stereotype is functioning to break the older more degrading stereotypes. Because natives and casinos portrays natives as being a modern person. Most of the stereotypes are based upon the native of the past though, which natives unfortunately uphold and fail to break.


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I_Guy Date: Thursday, 04/Jun/09, 1:39 AM | Message # 39

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Stereotypical much?

Read my edit.

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Are you sure you are Indian? No offense man, but do you ever hang out with or socialize with any other Indians at all? You seem quite disconnected.

I used to alot. I don't anymore because I am older and do not have time to spend much time at the rez anymore. But I disconnected before I stopped hanging because I saw the faults in the native way of life. I seem disconnected because I'm being objective and not using we, us, or my when speaking of natives.


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Menace Date: Thursday, 04/Jun/09, 9:47 AM | Message # 40

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If we want Natives to break the stereotype then Natives need to stop portraying themselves as the stereotype. The only way to break a stereotype is to do something radical. You see how the black struggles went unnoticed for decades until they started being radical. The same will be for the Native if Native's don't start doing something more highly charged. Everyone is under white rule, so you have to disrupt the flow to be noticed.

indeed whit that i completely agree militancy is the answer challenge the fabric of American society make them tremble make them fear you because that's when they come to a compromise just like in 68 the militancy rate was so high if they didn't act a full blown guerrilla war was on the brick


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