Well, ironically, the reason 2Pac has gained such noteriety across the globe is because many people see themselves in 2Pac. Like I said, he is a cultural icon, so it's not that far fetched that some of his fans may feel that they know him, even if they haven't met him in the physical form. The first acknowledgement of Jesus Christ was, believe it or not, a tag. Caesar's enemies used to tag his name on walls with images depicting his death. This form of communication goes back to the dawn of civilization.

Lol who knows whether he did or not. There are shamans and monks who have mystical powers, so it's a possibility at the least.

All I've been doing since page number one is defending my posts. If you don't believe me, you can click on the button marked "1" and see for yourself.

I'm a hip hop purist. This isn't a part time thing with me.

Well, I guess I should make it a point of reference that 2Pac's life wasn't similar to the life of your average rapper. Pac was in the media on all fronts. Radio, television, movies, internet. He ruled the rap world during his reign and growing up around that atmosphere created the grounds for why I follow his life story so closely to this day. I don't look down on anyone who doesn't know the full history of 2Pac or any rapper for that matter, I just don't like people hating on those whom they know nothing about.

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See, that was on page 2. I never wanted the debate to drag on for as long as it did. When I tried shying away from the thread, I was accused of "skirting the discussion", so at that point I had to shut it down. I had no other choice.

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I knew enough to win this debate, didn't I? LOL

There is a lot of valuable, credible information on the internet. Don't hate me because I'm good at doing research. I enjoy learning about the life of 2Pac. That's what I enjoy. I don't judge you for the things you enjoy.

This is a silly post. I get what you're saying, but what about all the historical figures that no one in our lifetime has ever met? Can we honestly say we don't know Martin Luther King, Jr.? Can we say we don't know Abraham Lincoln, or Nikola Tesla? I feel I know a lot about people who I never met in my life. I may not know it all, but I never claimed I knew 'everything' about 2Pac in the first place.

That's true but your mother wasn't raised in front of the spotlight.

I'm not trying to make you feel bad about having that number of posts, but what do you expect me to do when you come at me with, "I actually have a life" ... that's a round about way of showing disrespect.

I didn't come into the thread telling everyone to worship 2Pac. I came into the thread to give praise to the Vatican selecting his music. Some people were not pleased with the way I described 2Pac, so they called me out on it. I defended my stance. What is the issue?

OK LOL, and 2Pac was on this earth at a later time period than MLK, am I right? So there are probably many more people alive who knew Pac rather than MLK. Lol I don't understand what you were getting at with that comment.

I don't know what kind of food 2Pac likes. Never was interested.

You look like the type of person with damn near five thousand posts on a new forum.

Oh, my bad, I didn't know this wasn't a discussion forum dedicated to hip hop culture. Wait.....

I do, for one.

The Jaywalking incident was probably one of the biggest known facts about 2Pac during his lifetime. I live in the Bay Area so maybe it was talked about a lot more on the West but it is no mystery that Pac got his ass beat for crossing the street. He had a string of interviews following the incident where he recounts his tale. No mystery there.

The word "your" is possessive. I think you mean "you're", which is a contraction, or combination of the words "you" and "are" ... The more you know

its not new, you'll get there soon though

My point is that if I want to contribute to a thread about 2Pac, then I should be able to do so -- especially on a forum dedicated to hip hop music. The Jaywalking incident was relative to this thread because we were discussing 2Pac's criminal record. I never brought the Jaywalking thing up, I just added to it.

2Pac sported some nice gear during his time, but I'm not concerned with his underwear.

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Sorry for the interruption, folks. Just had to set the record straight for a few "ill-informed" thread participants. LOL

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Menacing methods label me a lethal weapon
Making niggaz die, witnessing breathless imperfections
Can you picture my specific plan?
To be the man in this wicked land
Underhanded hits are planned
These scams are plotted over grams of rocks
And undercover agents die by the random shots
We all die in the end, so revenge we swore
I was all about my ends, fuck friends and foes, me!!!!

to keep things going on 2pac now any of you resident 2pac blowers tell me his spirituality and if it had any relation to the actions he made in life including the thug related acts.

The most he's really let us in on is that he prays to god. And talks to god. Other than that we don't really know. He seems to be leaning more towards Christian morality but that's just my guess because of the crosses and the biblical passages tattooed on him and so forth. But even NaS has that same shit and he raps about Muslim ideals in his songs sometimes. I will admit though, NaS is a lot more back and forth with the religion thing as Pac is somewhat more vague and straight forward.

I posted this earlier, you should watch it again and LISTEN to what he is saying. Dyson basically broke down a 2 hour lecture in about 30 seconds. Talks a little about god in the opening sequence.

Was about to say, he never really spoke on religion directly but he does mention God a fair bit. He wears crosses though which I don't believe Muslims do? Plus if he really was a Muslim I think he would've mentioned his faith more often and his religious ideas so I'll assume he's Christian, most definitely not a fundamentalist though.