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| ALCATRAZ |
Date: Sunday, 20/Dec/09, 11:31 PM | Message # 1 |
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Quote (Dookie) yeah the Vatican are pure evil, plain and simple, and it would be just another move to try and convert more youth into their religion as they are majorly marketing Roman Catholicism all over the internet, trying to boost their numbers worldwide. Not aimed at Catholics, sure you might think the Vatican is great, but think of the real situation, the Roman Catholic Church if anything was a politically motivated move as Romans were a bunch of multiple god & goddess worshipping civilization, with Christianity being an "underground movement" at the time and that movement was gaining massive steam, "WE ARE CHRISTIANS NOW, PRAISE THE LORD", i majorly doubt it, i would personally like to go through their records cause that would have to be one of the institutions who have kept track of real modern history over the course of it. it's just a cool article for rap fans to know that an institution as large as the vatican is recognizing not just any american artist, but a ghetto black thug who was the son of a crack head ... "the rose that grew from concrete" ... we all know about rome and the nicean creed but don't look at that, look at how far 2pac has come ... that's the best part of the article
"I personally think OBCL2 is better than the original" - Lord Meth 
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| Uncharted |
Date: Sunday, 20/Dec/09, 11:45 PM | Message # 2 |
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[quote=ALCATRAZ]ghetto black thug[/quote]
lmao tupac wasnt an actual thug believe it or not
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| Dookie |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 2:00 AM | Message # 3 |
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Quote (Uncharted) lmao tupac wasnt an actual thug believe it or not Far from it, and its posturing from the vatican, nothing more nothing less.
Intelligence is the understanding of self - Bruce Lee
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| ALCATRAZ |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 2:49 AM | Message # 4 |
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you guys don't know what you're talking about ...
"I personally think OBCL2 is better than the original" - Lord Meth
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| Dookie |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 2:56 AM | Message # 5 |
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Quote (ALCATRAZ) you guys don't know what you're talking about ... yeah we do and he was no thug. just cause he talked it in his music doesnt mean that he literally was. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur
Intelligence is the understanding of self - Bruce Lee
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| eboyd |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 3:01 AM | Message # 6 |
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Quote (ALCATRAZ) you guys don't know what you're talking about ... i like 2pac, i'm not "hating," but i work with Leila Steinberg who was his manager from the beginning and she will even tell you he was never really a thug. sure, he rolled with some questionable people from time to time, but so do i and i'd never call myself a thug. 2pac was an art school kid raised in an atmosphere of revolution by his stepfather Mutulu and his mother who was a black panther. he was talented and people knew he would do great things from the beginning. he really didn't become that "thug" and get that "thug" image until the last 9 months of his life after he was released from jail on bond and signed to Death Row.
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| ALCATRAZ |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 3:02 AM | Message # 7 |
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Quote (Dookie) yeah we do and he was no thug "that's why i say i'm a thug -- because i came from the gutter, and i'm still here" -2Pac pac's definition of thug life was totally different then what children on the internet perceive it as ... he was poor and his mom was a drug addict, so he obviously lead a difficult lifestyle ... children think that to be a thug you need to bust your gun (which pac has done, btw) or be reckless 24/7 ... to be a thug is to be a man of your own, to not bow to anyone and always protect whats rightfully yours ... pac did that tenfold
"I personally think OBCL2 is better than the original" - Lord Meth
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| eboyd |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 3:14 AM | Message # 8 |
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Quote (ALCATRAZ) pac's definition of thug life was totally different then what children on the internet perceive it as ... he was poor and his mom was a drug addict, so he obviously lead a difficult lifestyle ... children think that to be a thug you need to bust your gun (which pac has done, btw) or be reckless 24/7 ... to be a thug is to be a man of your own, to not bow to anyone and always protect whats rightfully yours ... pac did that tenfold Pac defined it differently. that doesn't make him a thug in the sense of what a thug really is: "thug
/θʌg/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [thuhg] Show IPA ,
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–noun
1. a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer." 2pac was known for taking terms that had negative connotations and making them positive. he had an acronym for "thug life" as well T.he
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E.veryone he wasn't one, but people branded him a "thug" because he represented everything that white people hated about black culture, so he embraced the term and flipped it.
my new theme song
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"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"
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| ALCATRAZ |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 3:15 AM | Message # 9 |
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Quote (eboyd) he really didn't become that "thug" and get that "thug" image until the last 9 months of his life after he was released from jail on bond and signed to Death Row. DX: Switching gears here, I got a couple stories to ask you about that involve you and a couple other Hip Hop legends. First, is it true that you and Tupac were looting together during the ’92 L.A. Riots?
Kool G Rap: Definitely was. DX: [Laughs] How in the hell did that happen?
Kool G Rap: [Laughs] I mean, we wasn’t so much looting, we was just out there poppin’ off guns. DX: So what ‘Pac just called you up?
Kool G Rap: We were both in the same studio [in L.A.]. He was working on one of his albums and I was working on one of my albums. I was in there with Sir Jinx. Me, Jinx and my man Gooch from out in Cali, we was riding out there [during the riots] together. try understanding that it had nothing 2 do with him "becoming" anything ... it was in him the entire time
"I personally think OBCL2 is better than the original" - Lord Meth
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| eboyd |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 3:38 AM | Message # 10 |
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.....no i've watched out for friends (many of which were, in fact, gang members) while they went to vandalize before (when i was a teen). does that make me a "thug"??? he said they were "just out there poppin' off guns". for all i know he was shooting up in the air. rednecks do that far more often than "thugs" do. that was completely vague. why do you even want to argue that Pac was a thug anyways? i'm far more comfortable with him being an art student anyways.
my new theme song
erikboyd60@hotmail.com
"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"
-T.S. Eliot
battle record:
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| ALCATRAZ |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 4:27 AM | Message # 11 |
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so what, he's only a thug if he shoots his gun AT someone? are you happy now? or are you gonna come up with some other obscure excuse as to why pac isn't what he claimed to be ... it seems as though some people have an issue with the fact that pac was realer than your average ... he's remembered for a reason
"I personally think OBCL2 is better than the original" - Lord Meth
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| Dookie |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 4:27 AM | Message # 12 |
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eboyd knows his shit ALCATRAZ, i think you just jumped on the literal meaning of thug and took what he said literally instead of peeping his reality or mindview and all that gangsta shit cause he associated with death row. He was a switched on man tupac regardless, well read and intelligent.
Intelligence is the understanding of self - Bruce Lee
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| eboyd |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 4:49 AM | Message # 13 |
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Quote (ALCATRAZ) he's remembered for a reason that reason isn't because he was a thug though, it was because he was a FANTASTIC artist and human being that effected MANY peoples' lives.
my new theme song
erikboyd60@hotmail.com
"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"
-T.S. Eliot
battle record:
7-0-0
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| ALCATRAZ |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 4:54 AM | Message # 14 |
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we all have our reasons for remembering the man...
"I personally think OBCL2 is better than the original" - Lord Meth
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| eboyd |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 4:58 AM | Message # 15 |
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Quote (ALCATRAZ) we all have our reasons for remembering the man... people who loved 2pac because he was literally a thug are both ill informed and ignorant.
my new theme song
erikboyd60@hotmail.com
"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"
-T.S. Eliot
battle record:
7-0-0
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