Far from it, and its posturing from the vatican, nothing more nothing less.

yeah we do and he was no thug. just cause he talked it in his music doesnt mean that he literally was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur

i like 2pac, i'm not "hating," but i work with Leila Steinberg who was his manager from the beginning and she will even tell you he was never really a thug. sure, he rolled with some questionable people from time to time, but so do i and i'd never call myself a thug. 2pac was an art school kid raised in an atmosphere of revolution by his stepfather Mutulu and his mother who was a black panther. he was talented and people knew he would do great things from the beginning. he really didn't become that "thug" and get that "thug" image until the last 9 months of his life after he was released from jail on bond and signed to Death Row.

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"that's why i say i'm a thug -- because i came from the gutter, and i'm still here" -2Pac

pac's definition of thug life was totally different then what children on the internet perceive it as ... he was poor and his mom was a drug addict, so he obviously lead a difficult lifestyle ... children think that to be a thug you need to bust your gun (which pac has done, btw) or be reckless 24/7 ... to be a thug is to be a man of your own, to not bow to anyone and always protect whats rightfully yours ... pac did that tenfold

Pac defined it differently. that doesn't make him a thug in the sense of what a thug really is:

"thug
  /θʌg/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [thuhg] Show IPA ,
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–noun
1. a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer."

2pac was known for taking terms that had negative connotations and making them positive. he had an acronym for "thug life" as well

T.he
H.ate
U
G.ave

L.ittle
I.nfant
F.ucks
E.veryone

he wasn't one, but people branded him a "thug" because he represented everything that white people hated about black culture, so he embraced the term and flipped it.

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DX: Switching gears here, I got a couple stories to ask you about that involve you and a couple other Hip Hop legends. First, is it true that you and Tupac were looting together during the ’92 L.A. Riots?
Kool G Rap: Definitely was.

DX: [Laughs] How in the hell did that happen?
Kool G Rap: [Laughs] I mean, we wasn’t so much looting, we was just out there poppin’ off guns.

DX: So what ‘Pac just called you up?
Kool G Rap: We were both in the same studio [in L.A.]. He was working on one of his albums and I was working on one of my albums. I was in there with Sir Jinx. Me, Jinx and my man Gooch from out in Cali, we was riding out there [during the riots] together.

try understanding that it had nothing 2 do with him "becoming" anything ... it was in him the entire time

i've watched out for friends (many of which were, in fact, gang members) while they went to vandalize before (when i was a teen). does that make me a "thug"??? he said they were "just out there poppin' off guns". for all i know he was shooting up in the air. rednecks do that far more often than "thugs" do. that was completely vague. why do you even want to argue that Pac was a thug anyways? i'm far more comfortable with him being an art student anyways.

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are you happy now? or are you gonna come up with some other obscure excuse as to why pac isn't what he claimed to be ... it seems as though some people have an issue with the fact that pac was realer than your average ... he's remembered for a reason

that reason isn't because he was a thug though, it was because he was a FANTASTIC artist and human being that effected MANY peoples' lives.

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we all have our reasons for remembering the man...

people who loved 2pac because he was literally a thug are both ill informed and ignorant.

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