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eboyd Date: Thursday, 19/Nov/09, 1:06 PM | Message # 676

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I think we should create a society based on having sex :D you want to borrow my lawn mower? Ok, but your wife has to give me a blow first rofl you want to buy my car from me? Ok, let me fuck all the females in your family (that aren't fat or ugly) and you have yourself a deal rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Menace Date: Thursday, 19/Nov/09, 1:56 PM | Message # 677

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I think we should create a society based on having sex :D you want to borrow my lawn mower? Ok, but your wife has to give me a blow first rofl you want to buy my car from me? Ok, let me fuck all the females in your family (that aren't fat or ugly) and you have yourself a deal

believe it or not that's called mutual aid and it's a one of the economic basics of anarchism rofl rofl


eboyd Date: Thursday, 19/Nov/09, 2:04 PM | Message # 678

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Wtf?!?! Minus the sex, right????? huh

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Menace Date: Thursday, 19/Nov/09, 2:05 PM | Message # 679

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Wtf?!?! Minus the sex, right?????

duh duh duh of course LOL :D


eboyd Date: Thursday, 19/Nov/09, 2:55 PM | Message # 680

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Lol ok, just had to be certain :D in that case though, wouldn't that just be considered a simple bartering system? "I'll give you three sheep, a camel and a goat for your house"?

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Menace Date: Thursday, 19/Nov/09, 3:45 PM | Message # 681

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in that case though, wouldn't that just be considered a simple bartering system? "I'll give you three sheep, a camel and a goat for your house"?

No it's not barter it's called gift economy its different because its based on a free agreement between workers associations it's at a industrial level. Workers associations ( ( syndicates or cooperatives ) require raw materials as inputs and consumers for their products. Therefore there will be links between different syndicates. These links are twofold: firstly, free agreements between individual syndicates, and secondly, confederations of syndicates (within branches of industry and regionally). Let's consider free agreement first. Anarchists recognize the importance of letting people organize their own lives. This means that we reject central planning ( as in Marxist-Leninism ) and instead urge direct links between workers' associations. In the words of Kropotkin, "free workers would require a free organization, and this cannot have any other basis than free agreement and free co-operation, without sacrificing the autonomy of the individual." Those directly involved in production (and in consumption) know their needs far better than any bureaucrat. Thus voluntary agreement is the basis of a free economy, such agreements being "entered by free consent, as a free choice between different courses equally open to each of the agreeing parties." Without the concentration of wealth and power associated with capitalism, free agreement will become real and no longer a mask for hierarchy. So anarchists think that "in the same way that each free individual has associated with his brothers and sisters to produce . . . all that was necessary for life, driven by no other force than his desire for the full enjoyment of life, so each institution is free and self-contained, and co-operates and enters into agreements with others because by so doing it extends its own possibilities."
This suggests a decentralized economy -- even more decentralized than capitalism (which is "decentralized" only in capitalist mythology, as shown by big business and transnational corporations, for example) -- one "growing ever more closely bound together and interwoven by free and mutual agreements." For social anarchists, this would take the form of "free exchange without the medium of money and without profit, on the basis of requirement and the supply at hand." Therefore, an anarchist economy would be based on spontaneous order as workers practised mutual aid and free association. The anarchist economy "starts from below, not from above. Like an organism, this free society grows into being from the simple unit up to the complex structure. The need for . . . the individual struggle for life . . . is . . .sufficient to set the whole complex social machinery in motion. Society is the result of the individual struggle for existence; it is not, as many suppose, opposed to it." In other words, "this factory of ours is, then, to the fullest extent consistent with the character of its service, a self-governing unit, managing its own productive operations, and free to experiment to the heart's content in new methods, to develop new styles and products. . . This autonomy of the factory is the safeguard. . . against the dead level of mediocrity, the more than adequate substitute for the variety which the competitive motive was once supposed to stimulate, the guarantee of liveliness, and of individual work and workmanship."


El_Matador Date: Thursday, 19/Nov/09, 4:16 PM | Message # 682

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No it's not barter it's called gift economy its different because its based on a free agreement between workers associations. ( syndicates or cooperative ). Workers associations require raw materials as inputs and consumers for their products. Therefore there will be links between different syndicates. These links are twofold: firstly, free agreements between individual syndicates, and secondly, confederations of syndicates (within branches of industry and regionally). Let's consider free agreement first. Anarchists recognize the importance of letting people organize their own lives. This means that we reject central planning ( as in Marxist-Leninism ) and instead urge direct links between workers' associations. In the words of Kropotkin, "free workers would require a free organization, and this cannot have any other basis than free agreement and free co-operation, without sacrificing the autonomy of the individual." Those directly involved in production (and in consumption) know their needs far better than any bureaucrat. Thus voluntary agreement is the basis of a free economy, such agreements being "entered by free consent, as a free choice between different courses equally open to each of the agreeing parties." Without the concentration of wealth and power associated with capitalism, free agreement will become real and no longer a mask for hierarchy. So anarchists think that "in the same way that each free individual has associated with his brothers and sisters to produce . . . all that was necessary for life, driven by no other force than his desire for the full enjoyment of life, so each institution is free and self-contained, and co-operates and enters into agreements with others because by so doing it extends its own possibilities."
This suggests a decentralized economy -- even more decentralized than capitalism (which is "decentralized" only in capitalist mythology, as shown by big business and transnational corporations, for example) -- one "growing ever more closely bound together and interwoven by free and mutual agreements." For social anarchists, this would take the form of "free exchange without the medium of money and without profit, on the basis of requirement and the supply at hand." Therefore, an anarchist economy would be based on spontaneous order as workers practised mutual aid and free association. The anarchist economy "starts from below, not from above. Like an organism, this free society grows into being from the simple unit up to the complex structure. The need for . . . the individual struggle for life . . . is . . .sufficient to set the whole complex social machinery in motion. Society is the result of the individual struggle for existence; it is not, as many suppose, opposed to it." In other words, "this factory of ours is, then, to the fullest extent consistent with the character of its service, a self-governing unit, managing its own productive operations, and free to experiment to the heart's content in new methods, to develop new styles and products. . . This autonomy of the factory is the safeguard. . . against the dead level of mediocrity, the more than adequate substitute for the variety which the competitive motive was once supposed to stimulate, the guarantee of liveliness, and of individual work and workmanship."

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Lord_Meth Date: Thursday, 19/Nov/09, 7:40 PM | Message # 683

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Plus you are still a teen, Meth Have you developed yet?

Im 17 u negriod lol of coursed Im developed


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El_Matador Date: Thursday, 19/Nov/09, 8:01 PM | Message # 684

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Into a hoe or asexual?

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Menace Date: Thursday, 19/Nov/09, 9:24 PM | Message # 685

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Into a hoe or asexual?

shemale :D


El_Matador Date: Thursday, 19/Nov/09, 9:26 PM | Message # 686

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Wow, Meth, you trully have developed :D


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J-Breakz Date: Friday, 20/Nov/09, 0:40 AM | Message # 687

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55 pages... wow. lol u guys have too many problems with girls.

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ilikebacon3000 Date: Friday, 20/Nov/09, 10:10 AM | Message # 688

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^I would say that 90% of this thread is just random posts, jokes, and shit like that. About every 10 pages one of us will pull out a Perez Hilton story (usually me or occasionally Erik, once or twice uncharted) and then we will get back off subject.
And like 4 pages of this was us debating whether or not to lock this thread.
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s0dr2 Date: Friday, 20/Nov/09, 7:56 PM | Message # 689

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guys...im in love with my cousin... the sad truth is...ill never be able to marry her because she is older than me :'(

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Menace Date: Friday, 20/Nov/09, 8:07 PM | Message # 690

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guys...im in love with my cousin... the sad truth is...ill never be able to marry her because she is older than me

huh wtf


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