exactly, that's what i was elaborating about, i was saying real can be applied to everything as long as it says real to that particular thing, duh youz understandz?

exactly, i can rap about anything even without a mic, i can rap without rhyming, but to make it hip hop is on another level i need a lot of things to transform my useless rap into hip hop. AMEN !!

EMCEEING = To serve as master of ceremonies

RAPPING = A talk, conversation, or discussion.

Exactly that's why culture and tradition steps in, if hip hop didn't create a whole culture around it then Afrika Bambatta didn't even gain fame and wasn't mention as one of the founders of hip hop. Every genre of MUSIC lasts because of its culture behind it, like Jazz for example, Jazz music has a lot of sub genres but still Jazz is still Jazz because the original patterns of Jazz are there. Classical music is the same, its classical because its CLASSICAL, a musical genre lasts when it has behind a REAL tradition, not a watered down idea as you are used you, that's what i learned in music school i think in the US is called art school, maybe i am wrong

Where do you get those faces?

I say we just get the original founders of hip hop to write a book of rules like a constitution so that these discussions can have an absolute answer.

there are many nazi punk bands that play fast and loud- similar to punk. thus these bands are known as "nazi punk" bands even though their subject matter is completely contrary to what the VAST VAST VAST majority of punk bands and punk rockers alike believe. seriously 99.9% of punk bands are leftists to some degree, and hate racism/homophobia/etc.

see how that relates to hiphop? i can't articulate what i'm trying to say... fuck.

your just saying they don't stick to punk culture and punk values inherently they are not REAL to punk they are not real punk exactly as hip hop, or you can leave nazi punk bands and just put pop punk bands because they are not considered real punk neither because of the same thing. Or you just dumb.

Added (23/Mar/11, 10:13 PM)
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Well, I agree to a degree (unintentional word play), but you can't say that when most MC's are muslims (just an example), those who aren't can't be considered real MCs. But if islam was the template of hip hop, that'd be the case.

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Referring to bacon's comment.

Exactly, its a unwritten thing, its in the sound in the culture exactly like in classical music, if your music is not rooted in the traditions of Western liturgical and secular music then it cannot be called classical music.

He already did it, he gone all coo coo, he's really crazy, i think he has mental problems, and this comes from a fan of his i really like him but he's really coo coo with this religious hip hop thing.