Dope = preference of the person has nothing to do with the music.

and yes there is definitely real hip hop. Real hip hop isn't a forced project like many of the big record label artists have to go through. Real music in general is something that comes out of pure creativity, and not a timed project that has to have a certain number of sure shot ringtones.

From a morphological point of view that's true, real hip hop exists, whatever you like it or not its real.

At the end of the day its semantics, real is a synonym for authentic, authenticity refers to the truthfulness of origins, attributions, commitments, sincerity, devotion, and intentions. This goes back at my first comment, to be AUTHENTIC and inherently REAL HIP HOP is to remain truthful to the origins, attributions and intentions of Hip hop as a culture.

Basically, the 'real' part is redundant, it only confirms that it's hip hop. Saying that part is subjective is saying that hip hop is subjective. Saying that people understand it differently is another thing. Because it is in fact objective.
I don't remember the technical term, but in argumentation theory it is a logical error to define something by popular perception.

I'll make a good point tomorrow, when I've slept a bit.

OK but remember the anthropological of hip hop itself, hip hop is subjective in regards to its traditions and roots.

Like I think Mac Miller is dope as fuck, but on a "realness" scale, he's pretty damn low. He's real on a teenage rebellion level, and that's it.

exactly, i agree with you, that's why real is not exclusively positive or negative, real is something that says real and truthful to certain values,origins,traditions etc. That's why we are REAL hip hop forever because we state the authenticity of hip hop we stay real with hip hop. feel me? its not because real is superior is because real is REAL, we don't bullshit we stay real when it comes to hip hop

Fucking hipsters.

Any musician can sound good, can that musician be hip hop or real hip hop? what makes it hip hop? doesn't the beat make it hip hop? the lyrics? the lifestyle? the adherence to hip hop's past and present to the patterns of hip hop? Is Miles Davis hip hop? hip hop is more then good music

Whatcha talkin bout Willis ?

Real is just staying to true to hip hop. Dope can be anything dope doesn't even have to associate with music. Hell it can be drugs or w/e it doesn't matter.