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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:35 PM | Message # 61 |
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Quote (8Diagrams) What do you think of that idea?
Pretty deep..... He found himself. Quote (eboyd) he doesn't believe in any hell 8.
Im still debating that..... I think there is a hell, but it is NOT forever, and it is only for those who are truley evil. Like Hitler. And even a few minutes there is long enough. I also think that Jesus wasnt the only holy being to ever live. Jesus was god in human form, but god also put people like Bhudda and the prophet Muhamad for us to live our life after as well... We should take as much from other religons and ideas as we can as an attempt to enlighten ourselves and maybe learn that RHHF isnt the devil we thought it was after all.
Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:35 PM | Message # 62 |
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Quote (ilikebacon3000) I respect wisdom and knowledge but you could just as easily said "the feeling everyone gets when they all feel the same"
Uh, actually it would be better to not dumb things down. Because he used those words you learned something new didnt you?
livin life like some cheesy movie
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:38 PM | Message # 63 |
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Quote (I_Guy) The problem is you should have come to these conclusions on your own. Sure some of these ideas are good to follow. But why must they be associated with religion. A sensible person will come to these conclusions on their own outside and apart from religion. What your doing is letting other people do the thinking for you instead of doing it yourself
How am I doing that? No one told me that I should learn as much as I can from Bhudda or Islam. I just thought "Hey I might as well. I might actually learn something".
How can I do the thinking myself? I mean if you are referring to history, you cant do that.
You must take history and other beleifs (the knowledge) and follow it with wisdom (the way you use your knowledge). And that is exactly what I'm doing. Just trying to learn as much as possible, and based on what I have learned, use it how I see fit.
Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:38 PM | Message # 64 |
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Quote (ilikebacon3000) Who is "us"? The Agnostics leaning towards Atheism who sit there and fight everything with science? You can fight anything with science and it still wont explain how it started. You can say "The earth has been here for 7 billion years (or however long it is)" (NOTE: I dont beleive the earth is only 6000 years old) and it still wont explain how it got here except some idea of a big explosion from nothing.... Which still doesent explain how the nothing got here in the first place. And even if there is a god he probably doesent know how he got here either. The only true logical explanation is that there is a higher being. A creator. There MUST be. THere is just no way it just happened how it did.
It just is.
Just because science does not yet know the answer doesn't mean that its right to blindly accept a creator. Thats like when a magician does a magic trick, the reason kids believe it's magic is because they don't know how the trick is really done and their willing to blindly accept that there was some mystical force that helped with it.
livin life like some cheesy movie
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:39 PM | Message # 65 |
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Quote (J-Breakz) Because he used those words you learned something new didnt you?
ACtually I didnt think of it that way.
DAMMIT you did the thinking for me right there.
No really that was a good point so yeah dont dumb it down.
Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
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| Lord_Meth |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:39 PM | Message # 66 |
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Quote (I_Guy) The problem is you should have come to these conclusions on your own. Sure some of these ideas are good to follow. But why must they be associated with religion. A sensible person will come to these conclusions on their own outside and apart from religion. What your doing is letting other people do the thinking for you instead of doing it yourself.
oooooh that deserves a rep....Madd co-signage for that
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:39 PM | Message # 67 |
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Quote (ilikebacon3000) "Erik Im not sure about the whole Jesus thing..... You know?" lol eboyd ??? 
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:42 PM | Message # 68 |
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Quote (ilikebacon3000) I heard that little voice say "Taylor, be a lawyer" the whole service. There were no lawyers in our church, no lawyers in my family, nothing. Idont know why but I felt like something was telling me to be a lawyer.
I get home today and I'm like "Yeah so Ben was talking about what we should do in our lives" and my mom was like 'taylor you need to be a lawyer".
She had no idea that I was thinking that last night. I told no one. I had no contact with anyone in my family this wee that's pretty cool, sometimes things like that are true
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| I_Guy |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:42 PM | Message # 69 |
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Quote (ilikebacon3000) another way of making yourself sound smart just to seem unique and above someone with a smaller vocabulary.
It has nothing to do with that. Those are the precise words that describe the concepts I'm explaining. When you dumb things down you use words that are widely used and that generalizes the idea or concept. Therefore it isn't as clear. Quote (ilikebacon3000) and it still wont explain how it got here except some idea of a big explosion from nothing.... Which still doesent explain how the nothing got here in the first place. And even if there is a god he probably doesent know how he got here either. The only true logical explanation is that there is a higher being. A creator. There MUST be. THere is just no way it just happened how it did.
It just is.
How do you not see your error. We can't explain the beginning of the universe. You can't explain the beginning of God. Same damn thing. Our theory is just more practical.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
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| Menace |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:45 PM | Message # 70 |
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Quote (ThaScience) bacon, dont listen to him, he's a communist.  Quote (I_Guy) It has nothing to do with that. Those are the precise words that describe the concepts I'm explaining yeah he always brings that over analyzed argument when he doesn't understand shit he thinks people pull words out of their ass like that but most of the shit here is on college or even higher level
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:47 PM | Message # 71 |
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Quote (I_Guy) How do you not see your error. We can't explain the beginning of the universe. You can't explain the beginning of God. Same damn thing. Our's is just more practical
How is yours more practical if neither one explains a thing? you cant debate that. It will keep going. Its like 2 people arguing over morality. If they dont agree then they arent going to magically comprimise. And the whole thing about god being lonely, I got to thinking about that myself on the way home this morning. Sure, the Jesus thing wasnt my idea. But the idea of pleasing god by trying to love him because we can relate to Jesus was all mine.
Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
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| I_Guy |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:47 PM | Message # 72 |
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Quote (ilikebacon3000) How am I doing that? No one told me that I should learn as much as I can from Bhudda or Islam. I just thought "Hey I might as well. I might actually learn something".
What you need to do is sit and think. That's how you come to logical conclusion. Sure you can't help but come across some good ideas at times. But you have to let the idea marinate in your mind. Don't just believe it because it's easy and sounds good. You have to truly think, HARD.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
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| I_Guy |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:50 PM | Message # 73 |
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Quote (ilikebacon3000) How is yours more practical if neither one explains a thing?
It is as practical as it can be at this point to the best that our knowledge of the universe allows. It is practical all the way until the beginning. The bible's theory isn't practical ever. (Keep in mind, the philosophy of a God/universe creator is fine as a theory. Just keep that bible shit out of it.)
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
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| I_Guy |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:54 PM | Message # 74 |
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Quote (8Diagrams) Since when does appeal attribute to truth?
Logic is seperate from knowledge. You use knowledge and empirical evidence to drive logic. As long as you have a clear functioning brain, logic will bring you to the proximity of truth. Quote (8Diagrams) but all theories are just theories
What does that mean?
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:58 PM | Message # 75 |
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Quote (I_Guy) What does that mean?
I think he means that theorys are theorys because they havent been proved, and until they are they are just theorys and cant be argued because none of them are fact until proven.
Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
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