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New Religious Beliefs
eboyd Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:58 PM | Message # 76

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The only true logical explanation is that there is a higher being

dude, you'll hurt your head trying to wind yourself around that never ending chicken-egg debate.

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I_Guy Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 8:59 PM | Message # 77

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Empirically based LOGICAL theories are the gateways to new knowledge, and possibly the "truth."

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J-Breakz Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:02 PM | Message # 78

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all theories are just theories

by definition a theory has to be supported by multiple facts, right? So I don't believe christianity can be considered a theory lol.

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just theorys and cant be argued because none of them are fact until proven.

and theories are meant to be argued


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I_Guy Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:03 PM | Message # 79

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I think he means that theorys are theorys because they havent been proved, and until they are they are just theorys and cant be argued because none of them are fact until proven.

I know what he meant, just wanted him to think about it. Science isn't audacious enough to claim their theories as truth, a humble trait. They rarely even call it proof. They call it evidence. Because the heart of science is skepticism.


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I_Guy Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:07 PM | Message # 80

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So I guess that screws I_Guy's idea of it being called the Christian Theory

Not quite. I only refer to it as the "God Theory." Because a god theory is logically based. It's just all the mankind bible bullshit that people get confused with.


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Lord_Meth Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:08 PM | Message # 81

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It's just all the mankind bible bullshit that people get confused with.

exactly


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ilikebacon3000 Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:09 PM | Message # 82

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Hey I_Guy I have a suggestion for you, BURN IN HELL!
JK lol JKKKK
No really though you and Boyd should start a daily Vocabulary Thread in the Knowledge thread for those of us that are less...... Intelligent;)
And menace.
All 3 of you have a sick vocab no doubt and I now that I realize that dumbing words down is just ignorance, it makes sense that you should do that.

Also, i look at the bible as a theory. All religon is just an idea based on hope and faith that we are right. For all I know, the bible is just flatout wrong. But I choose to try my best to follow it.


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I_Guy Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:13 PM | Message # 83

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Right, I believe you said it's POSSIBLE that a supreme being exists, but not the one that the right-winged Christians are ATTEMPTING to explain.

Pretty much. The only supreme being that I see as currently respectable as a theory is an initiator of the universe. That's it. But I still see it as quite unlikely.


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ilikebacon3000 Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:19 PM | Message # 84

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Also, more hypocrisy, because they also say that no one can measure God

How is that hypocrisy?
And really if there is a surpreme being, you simply cant. He will be beyond all human imagination. There will be no way to explain him/her/it.


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Menace Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:20 PM | Message # 85

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No really though you and Boyd should start a daily Vocabulary Thread in the Knowledge thread for those of us that are less...... Intelligent;)

if you don't understand words look into the dictionary or ask for an explanation as you did and it's done it's very simple you don't need a PHD my main language is not English so I'm inherent to not understanding some words if i don't understand i look into the dictionary or translate the word and I'm happy at least your understanding and being level headed I'd say your more level headed then Pensmoke and that dude is like 38 or something LMAO

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Also, i look at the bible as a theory. All religon is just an idea based on hope and faith that we are right. For all I know, the bible is just flatout wrong. But I choose to try my best to follow it.

well that's why the world can't run on hope and faith the world must run on proof and evidence on empirical factors on real life ideas on REAL LIFE AND REALITY that's why we divided religion from the state in the first time because rationalism must lead our life's not hope and faith we can hope and have faith but if we can't think in a rationalist way we can't go nowhere


Menace Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:23 PM | Message # 86

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and answer religious people that believe in creation If yaal believe that everything was created and nothing can pop out like that why God seems to pop out like that ?? it's not hypocrisy why this theory is applied just on us but not to God why we can't pop out like this and he can ? because hes almighty ?? but there is not logic there

Lord_Meth Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:27 PM | Message # 87

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God seems to pop out like that ??

maybe God wasnt created......nor was the universe.......maybe God is the universe?!?!


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I_Guy Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:31 PM | Message # 88

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What to study to conquer religion out of your mind:

All sciences (primarily Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Geology)
All eras of Philosophy and Logic
World History
Language
Mythology
Anthropology
Sociology
Psychology
and last of all, Relgion itself.

You don't even have to study them in depth. The deeper you study the more details you get, but the main ideas are sufficient enough to draw your own conclusions.


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I_Guy Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:32 PM | Message # 89

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maybe God wasnt created......nor was the universe.......maybe God is the universe?!?!

Okay you Indian. :D JK.


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ilikebacon3000 Date: Saturday, 25/Jul/09, 9:38 PM | Message # 90

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well that's why the world can't run on hope and faith the world must run on proof and evidence on empirical factors on real life ideas on REAL LIFE AND REALITY that's why we divided religion from the state in the first time because rationalism must lead our life's not hope and faith we can hope and have faith but if we can't think in a rationalist way we can't go nowhere

but somethings will NEVER be proven/discovered so you might as well think how you want.
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All sciences (primarily Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Geology)
All eras of Philosophy and Logic
World History
Language
Mythology
Anthropology
Sociology
Psychology
and last of all, Relgion itself.

where do I start?
Thats alot.
sociology Anthropology
And religon is technically mythology it started as an idea and it made its own stories and christianity actually supports itself in some ways.
also what about near death experiences? What about people who havent heard of chrisianity and see jesus in their NDE?

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Care to elaborate on this being part of it? Not questioning you, just curiosity.

Probalbly becasue of mistranslation/ how ideas change throughout the course of languages evolution


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