Tehe. So much for 'Self management'.. Elected official, ehem.. Boss?

and anarcho-syndicalism is never meant to be this higher order cause unlike capitalists and Marxists we anarchists understand that everyone CAN'T agree or implement our way of doing things or because they are too dumb or because their geo-political status doesn't allow them our revolution will occur from mere compulsion in places that is needed an example the Zanon factory in Argentina they needed to go back and take back the factory and they did simple as that

he is not paid and he has no decision making power all is decided in workers assemblies and if testing is needed apprenticeships and internships are assigned

And who takes on the apprentice/intern, someone the elected official ordered to do so or just someone who wants to take on some extra work? What does this do exactly except for making things more complicated?

man read the fucking article then ask questions !!! you are good in computer programming you will be assigned to a computer programmer for testing simple of course is decided if the actual people that train these new employees will get paid thats decided on the ground plus you really need credentials from school to get into the workplace what you think they take homeless people from the streets and train them ?? if you are qualified they take you its obvious

I've got the license to drive some heavy machinery.. Doesn't mean I'm qualified to, does that mean I can't ever get into it just because I'm not qualified but do have the rights to?

I'll read it though but like I said I don't see why they should change it from 'boss' to 'elected official', wouldn't they elect some idiot to get longer lunch breaks / less work all day and have some nap times (while being paid) and some other things along those lines?

Also who's going to be starting the companies if there's no boss? The boss spends 4.000.000$ to start something and then the elected official gets over and he gets nothing?

That's it for now though, will read it before replyng next time.

this topic is so ridiculously contradictory, "don't work for a boss, self-management is the key." your business will stay low-income and garbage unless you employ people, fact. every company starts from the ground up, you are EMPLOYED by an EMPLOYER, so obviously the employer makes more money. you're not making any sense, you don't want to make less than the boss, then don't get a job.

menace, if you spent even half the time you spend complaining about the state of the world on actually trying to change it maybe you'd have an impact.

what ?? you got a license you are hired if employees are needed

are you people retarded or don't understand English ?? the elected official HAS NO DECISION MAKING POWER he takes his orders from the workers assemblies so a person doesn't decide shit the collective does

what ?? once again are you people retarded ?? why you people are so dumb to judge before you read ?? why your business will stay low income ?? WHY ?? cause what ?? you are not employed by an EMPLOYER you employed by a person who generally took a loan or a mortgage from a bank and created this business in time you as the EMPLOYEE pay his loans he is an average person like you nothing special.

it is more easy to start a business in partnerships then start it alone in general "bosses" don't spend SHIT they take loans from BANKS you people have no idea how economics works after they invest this loan you as the worker pay his loan if you are smarter you could start a collective of people that start a business and you and your collective can get a collective loan or if you start alone you take this loan create this business implement this system and merge in the workforce

the world isn't going to change, period. and the only way around it is becoming your own boss.

as i said once again, become an entrepreneur, please, show us how easy it is and show us how you will obtain a mass fortune while the rest of us foolishly work for bosses.

lmao

you're ALL talk and NO action, seriously, you're a waste of time to even talk to.

i guarantee if you invested over a hundred grand into a business and hired employees you'd contradict your stance in a heartbeat.

I remember you telling me to pick up a book and learn how to debate when I called somebody an idiot the other day.. I smell hypocrisy.

They generally don't give out 100% loans and even if they do, it looks like you're to 'retarded' to realize that if it doesn't work out he's going down because he's spending money that isn't his which is his responsibility to pay in the long run and he should make the same as the normal worker?

collective loans are more easy to get and more cheap cause they are not granted on a psychical person hence you and your collective will pay it more quicker after you hire the people and merge whit the workforce

and don't act on me like a wise guy man you think you gonna scare me or something ??? keep it on the subject or get your ass off this website ok ?? negro's acting all arrogant over the internet

it's not his responsibility to pay it in the long run ?? well he took that loan on his name on a physical person the workers are paying his loan well if the workers are paying it why the workers don't own it ?? if it's not his responsibility to pay it in the long run why he doesn't take a collective loan and merge whit the workforce ?? ohh wait he wants to be the "boss" on the expense of others you people don't realize that these bosses are behind this crisis cause they overpaid themselves

I find it ironic how you "spread your wisdom" on message boards, typical, your company would be a failure because others you helped would step on you as soon as they could and you'll never be able to prove me wrong because you'd rather sit on the internet all day.

Is your idea really that bad? No, not at all. Will it ever come into fruition? No, not at all. As I already said if you EVER invested over a hundred thousand dollars into a company you'd change your tone in a second.

my idea came to fruition it's all over Argentina self management saved Argentinian economy i gave one example here too ohh and here in Europe to in fact i work in such a workplace

you are arrogant instead of talking like a normal person you jump in the middle of conversations and quickly jump to conclusions and act like a wise guy too instead of telling your side we didn't make the new rules just for the fun of it stay on the subject nobody said shit to you

What do you do Menace?