But bosses go to school to learn how to be managers...
- Actually, most of them don't have degrees in business administration or public administration (MBA, MPA). Master's Degree programs in these fields teach accounting and Capitalist economics, but you won't learn anything about people or problem-solving which you don't already know from experience. What you learn is management and motivational theory: How to exploit people through psychology. Most managers (bosses) just have business degrees, at best, which is a degree in Capitalism: Banking, Accounting, Profiteering, etc.

But bosses create jobs... No!
- The boss only hires and fires you. Jobs are created because the boss sees a chance to get richer, but the amount of work involved is greater than what those who currently work for the boss can do alone. Bosses will do anything possible to avoid hiring new workers including assigning more tasks to each worker ("work speed-ups"), buying machines to take workers jobs and paying overtime. Overtime costs a boss less than hiring a new worker, but the workers who works overtime actually gets paid less than that additional work after they pay income tax (it may even increase their tax rate).

But my boss is "nice"... Don't trust them!
- A boss is a boss is a boss is a boss... ...!
- The boss knows that their job depends on being able to exploit you. You can depend on them only to tell you what you want to hear. The boss you think you know and "trust" is a facade.
- If you work hard, they will work you harder.
- If you do a good job at work, they will criticize the quality of your work then take credit for it in from of their boss. They will use your work to get themselves a promotion.
- If there is a problem at work, they will tell their boss it's your fault.
- If you know more than your boss, they will try to get you fired or harass you so you will quit or make mistakes they can use against you to get you fired. They will tell you things like "I want to help you" or "you are overqualified". When you hear this, you will know the end is near.

But what if the boss is the owner?
- First of all, most small businesses are usually owned by the bank (through a mortgage or small business loan) and a landlord (most are in rented commercial property) who collect money from you through your boss for doing nothing.
- It is arguable that many small business "owners"/operators work harder than if they were working for someone else, but the chances are, even if they do, they still don't pay their workers for the full value of the work their workers do. The best evidence of this is that while you have to ride the bus to work, the boss owns a car. While you have to rent or share an apartment, the boss has a house. Obviously, you can't afford to live like your boss and even the hardest working boss doesn't do that much more than you do, to be equal to the difference in the money each of you get out of the business.

But, if I work hard and do what I'm told, I can be rich and successful...
- People who work hard and are smart at what they do are usually viewed as a threat by their boss because they probably know as much or more about the work than those in charge.
- Working for a boss isn't competitive. Chances are, if your boss want's to hire or promote someone, they will chose someone they think is like them or a friend, regardless of their qualifications.
- Take a look around you. How many rich people do you see? There aren't a lot compared to the rest of us. Now common sense tells us that if you subtract the majority of rich people who merely inherited their money, there are only a handful left and they all got their money from owning stock or property and not from honest work. At best, hard work can make you comfortable. At worst, it will make you sick and your boss rich! The best way to insure that you are working for yourself is to have no boss at all!

HOW WOULD WE WORK WITHOUT BOSSES?

How are decisions made?
- Workers are organized into working groups based on what they do (their tasks). Decisions are made democratically by those who do the work.
- Each group sends a representative to all coordinating meetings for their section of the workplace. Each section coordinating committee sends a representative to the coordination committee for the workplace.
- Representatives can be changed at any time by the group who chooses them. They have no authority over those groups.
- Conflicts are resolved through mediation and arbitration by someone neutral and impartial.

How are workers paid?
- The workers decide how much of the income earned by their work goes to keep the business going and how much goes to them as compensation for their labor.
- Without "make work" from bosses, every job becomes equally necessary: both physical work and brain work. The workers may choose to each take an equal share or to pay everyone based on how many hours they work.
- Without stockholders and overpaid bosses, more money goes to those who actually do the work.

What about benefits?
- Without bosses, workers are no longer considered "expendable." Medical Care, Dental Care, Child Care, Disability, Vacation Time, Sick Time and Retirement are considered part of the cost of maintaining the workplace and are paid for out of the earnings of the workplace.
- The workplace also covers the cost of your tools, safety equipment and training.

What about promotions?
- Tasks are assigned based on your skills and abilities: what you know and can do. There is no "kissing ass' because no one tells anyone else what to do and people are paid based on their work and not their position.
- You learn on-the-job how to do more and more complex tasks. Self-managed workplaces have apprenticeship/internship procedures for new workers.
- The only "promotion" is in the area of responsibility. Since no one is in-charge, The working group gives the most responsibility to those they trust. The reward is personal satisfaction and respect.
- By doing away with the real parisites in the workplace (bosses), you have a lot more people to do the work and you can reduce the amount of work everyone has to do to be productive. This means that the workday can be shorter and more flexable and that work won't be as strenuous. People can also choose to work part time.
- Without a boss, the stress at work would be lower.

What about Shirkers?
- Shirking is usually a subconscious response to being exploited. > Without exploitation, there will be less incentive to shirk off work.
- Those who still want to stand by and let their co-workers do the > work while they do nothing, will be stealing from them. It is up to the > workers to decide if and when someone's lazyness is unfair to the rest of > them. Workers who try to live of the work of others while doing nothing > will be kicked out of the job at the discretion of their co-workers.

thats part of the Industrial democracy and Industrial democracy is part of the anarcho libertarian system the term teamworking and team work is part of this system in fact anarchist philosophers gave birth to it in fact communism and socialism stole many concepts from anarchists and libertarians cause in the early days we were united but after we split cause we saw socialism and communism is the prime example of authoritarianism so thats the reason we split they were authoritarians eric if u start a business i will be glad to send u tru mail service or whatever my books on Self-Management and libertarian philosophy cause i think u would be the first to start this and u will not be alone the Workers Solidarity Alliance is spread on helpin people who advocate Self-Management tru out the world

kinda bored lately

Yeah their maybe some isolated instances but for people to think that it can work in masses i think its insane.

what the hell does that mean lol

i'm sure you'll last a day or two before you concede and get a job at wal-mart.