people like you seem to not make a difference between a social movement and a religion the same conservative neo-religious arguments were used by the right wing in the 60's against the anti war movements and civil rights movements and Lethface you bashed on your ideas LOL thats what i fight against those people who make their raps and glorify and make an identity out of it and then they call it having fun or art they justify their means at hip hop's expense you see how you made my point

No, i don't ... but I feel I've made mine....we're both right in our own minds I guess... All I wish is that you wouldn't make EVERYTING SO Political.... soon as you touch any thread it becomes insanely corrupted - LMAO ... can't some of us just have a little fun and enjoy this thing called hiphop WE ALL love....except for you

"UNTIL THEY STOP ME, BURY, MURDER ME OR DROP ME, I GOT...THUG LUV FOR MY NATIONWIDE POSSE"

you made me recognize it??? No, I know it happens but your arguement states that You now refuse to listen to KRS1 BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY LAYED SOME NEGATIVITY DOWN AND THAT "Can't Be Fixed"....You ain't hiphop man!!!! Ahahahahaha- 'Fuck outta Here!..... Quit contradictin' yourself!!!......

Now you're gonna try and come up with some way to defend yourself saying that you can and do listen to KRS but it's too late homie.... you already said that once negativity is portrayed and it's affected the culture in negative ways that it's too late and can't be made better - You Lose!

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C'mon....I'm sure you can fit a little more of his dick in your mouth can't you?!?!!!! Hahahahahaha- God forbid anyone try and test the all powerful MENACE - he's so smart, he's my fuckin' idol..... I love the way he flip things on people to make it seem he's right - FAG

Read the whole arguement and how it started before you get balls deep Man!!! Menace is trying to say that Master P already made a negative impact on the hiphop community and even tho' he's now trying to better it...it's too late, it can't be done!!!<---- this is the basis of our whole arguement..... but then he has the nerve to quote KRS1 and shit but if you know anything about hiphop you'll know that KRS1 was a contributer to one of the 1st and biggest beefs in hiphop history and also made negative music and posed on album covers with guns which made people act in a negative manner....... but then he worships KRS1 b/c he smartened up but Master P can't change things????
and then he says that KRS1 was just speaking through other people and their stories - LOL- but god Forbid anybody he doesn't like gets on the mic and does that....

"UNTIL THEY STOP ME, BURY, MURDER ME OR DROP ME, I GOT...THUG LUV FOR MY NATIONWIDE POSSE"

Message edited by LethaFace - Friday, 13/Feb/09, 9:58 AM

I must agree. If an artist I hated finally did something good (doesn't necessarily need to be positive, just well done) I would give him props. I still would keep a microscope over everything he did because I'd be skeptical, but I would not down a dude because of what he did in the past.

LOL

Menace you Thinking To deep and maybe your right in some aspects

But this stuff is more simple than that its the fact that you cant be mad

at someone thats doing good plain and simple

And No, It's NEVER TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!....this was my original comment and you attacked it.... Stop with the Gill Scott Heron comments too- I don't give a "damn"(is that ok? LOL)! Bottom line is that you have a serious hate for hiphop...if you don't like it, don't listen....the only time you wanna hear it is if they get on some political militant shit....SORRY That is NOT the only aspect of hiphop...Quit hatin' on Everyone's opinions of what they like if you can't take the criticism yourself! I know plenty more than You about HipHop as a whole Menace and this bothers you so you say I don't know shit- LOL- You're just mad cuz I don't jock your nuttz the way all these other kids do up in here.... You of all people should respect that I'm standing up for my own beliefs.....and EveryBody else in here should recognize that I rep the culture as a whole where as your simple mind only reps a small portion -

"UNTIL THEY STOP ME, BURY, MURDER ME OR DROP ME, I GOT...THUG LUV FOR MY NATIONWIDE POSSE"

once again money is no excuse for whack shit i made Lethaface recognize how rappers act dumb at hip hop's expense that's why i told him that he made my point and this the whole meaning of the debate

....and once again... you didn't make me realize a damb thing! I realize and have stated in many threads that too many people milk it but you still have to understand that hiphop is a business and ppl wanna get paid. just cuz you don't like that they floss a little doesn't make it wrong.... Shit even your boy Huey P. Newton was involved in the drug trade for money...how you gonna make a guy like that your hero? Oh, cuz he was doing other positive things right?!?!? LOL - Exactly!

"UNTIL THEY STOP ME, BURY, MURDER ME OR DROP ME, I GOT...THUG LUV FOR MY NATIONWIDE POSSE"

Message edited by LethaFace - Friday, 13/Feb/09, 11:21 AM

Why are you SO quick to make a stupid comment like that? - Why do you always assume that nobody knows anything about the topics your life revolves around? This is Ignorant... I know shit too Menace, So get over yourself Already!!! You're making youself look more Ignorant with each comment Bro'... Look, i'm not here to beef with You and shit as I told You a long time ago in that PM... but when you call me a dumbass with nothing to back it up other than throwing in your stupid little facts that are irrelevant to try and make yourself feel smart then I get annoyed and I will make you look stupid even though you're doing a good job of that on your own....... Just stop trying to turn EVERYTHING So political to get your political fix through hiphop....... And stop ignoring my statement and questions while posting some facts that are already known............... thank you for clarifying that Huey P Newton Was a drug dealer and negatively affected Black culture and then Made A Change the same way Master P (whom U Hate SOOO Much) did...

Huey P Newton= Murderer/drug dealer turned political activist(idolized by menace)
Master P=Drug Dealer turned icon to ghetto youth- to an intelligent man/positive role model and a good father(hated by menace)

.....Now go search up some more facts for me and be sure to word it up real nice too

"UNTIL THEY STOP ME, BURY, MURDER ME OR DROP ME, I GOT...THUG LUV FOR MY NATIONWIDE POSSE"

Message edited by LethaFace - Friday, 13/Feb/09, 11:56 AM

you cursed at me and dissed me so i defended my stand and AFFECTED NEGATIVELY ?? you see how you don't know SHIT ABOUT HUEY P NEWTON OR THE BLACK PANTHER'S how they affected negatively the black community ?? LMAO that's the problem they affected positively the black community making the black community more independent and they taught the black community to generate wealth inside it LOL come on man comparing historical figures whit rappers is just plain dumb i trashed your facts on Nas and the other and on money what more u want ?? you clearly state and support an unbalanced hip hop culture and that's the problem man hip hop became a business that's why hip hop is dying in the words of Redman