And I could understand if it was like "oh, Dre, I know exactly what will sound dope right there!" And they just laid down one part of the beat and he fucked with it and made the rest, but he had an entire team around him and only made one small element. As a producer myself, I've had dudes come up to me and be like "hey, check it out. Try this" but I still make the rest of the beat. For example, on my "Nowhere To Go" beat this one kid was fucking around with the keyboard after I laid down the cymbols while I had the bass ready and he played this shit and I was like "hey, that's the sound I'm looking for! Can you do that again?" And so he did and I fucked with it for a minute, rearranged some notes, and he left and I did EVERYTHING else myself. Same with my beat for EmSeeD. I laid down the foundation to the track, including the main drums, the synth wind sounds, that distorted trumpet, etc., then another guy was like "check this" and laid down some tracks that were in the background and gave it a more ethereal feel, then I came back and put the snares in and distorted some things and finished it. There's a difference between that and what Dre does.

lol meth thats not a good example to help our case

Meth, have you ever heard of the term player-coach? Not to say Dre doesn't deserve some credit, but who deserves more credit, the guy making equally as dope beats but doing all the work himself (DJ Premier, Jay Dee, Pete Rock, etc.) or the guy who has others doing most of the actual music aspect for him?

To be honest, it depends on how u look at it, this is one of those moments were ur own judgement decides wat u think is best
Me I'm 50/50 to a certain extent
If u musically rounded like Dre and ur known for having a ear for the beats, than wats wrong by taking a backseat and directing people into their rightful place? He earned it
Say if it was Soulja Boy doing it...then there would be a problem cuz he has no fucking clue wat hes doing at all
so its just ur own look upon it

Regardless, Premo has paid his dues and has an ear for production too just as much as Dre if not more so, but he still does everything himself. He may ask one instrumental soloist to do one aspect for him, but that is rare and he still layers all of it himself with the rest of the sound.

No doubt, and I still have respect for Dre, but not as much as I did before I figured this out, especially when it came to the beats he was just buying off dudes. I can't put him in my top 5. Maybe top 10, but top 5 is pushing it for me. There are too many producers doing their own shit and making just as dope or doper beats than Dre. And who gives a shit about popularity? Cool & Dre and Jazzy Pha are popular. Does that make them any good?

Keep their heads ringin

Not A ghost producer, GHOST PRODUCERS. He takes a lot of the beat by the producer from Self Scientific and puts his stamp on them, plus 90% of 2001 was either Scott Storch or someone else that wasn't Dre himself. Storch even produced "Still Dre."

Strings by so and so and
Guitar by so ans so and
Bass by so and so

But thats just cause they used live music
I would still say its Dre Beats

So if Scott Storch came up with some Keys for Dre its still Dre beats

i agree with this, the still d.r.e beat was a sample but when people read that on wikipedia about storch playing the keys they think storch actually wrote it but he didn't.
I was reading in an interview where premo delivered some beats to dre for Rakim's aftermath album. dre and mel-man were listening to the premo beats and they said they liked one but asked premo if its okay to get scott storch to re-play the keys, and premo said it was okay. But does that mean scott storch produced it? no premo produced it they just wanted storch to re-play some keys.