this doesn't bother you? if he's saying things just to fit in than he's a pussy and fake.

If ur going to call nas a pussy and fake for that, then ur are the one who is fake and a pussy. i went onto page 2 on this thread.. and im seriosuly not gonna say Anything on this cos il probably be hated even more for saying the truth. il say 1 thing dough, 95% of the ppl on here r fake, those who say they only listen to "real hip hop" need a fuckin life, a spliff, a girl, and get out more to clubs.. most of u r fake.. like i say.. go wank over dj premier and mf doom.

but Menace u just hate Eminem lol u havent gave me a reason to think Eminem was overrated YET
Nas, yes I agree he is overrated but when hes at his best he shits on most of the MCs out there
I got more reasons to prove Eminem isnt overrated then u do saying he is

no i said if Nas only said it to fit in then it makes him a poosay

anyone who says something they don't believe just so they'll fit in is a poosay, idk maybe nas actually does like Drake, if he genuinely does i've got no problem with that.

omg read it, its not about endorsing people its about endorsing good music, if ANYONE makes a good song i will listen to it i dont give a shit who it is and it should be "endorsed" by "us" as erik said

chatting with you is an uphill struggle man i swear you just act dumb?...

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Uncharted.... LMAO! I can't agree with your reasoning bro

But yeah, Meth, since when did I hate "Illmatic"??!?!? I'm with you 100% that Nas is overrated but will still shit on almost any emcee. People in "real" hip hop dick ride Nas so bad I'm surprised his nut sack doesn't drag on the floor from being stretched out by all the weight

"Illmatic" is considered the be-all-end-all of hip hop and I simply do not agree. Nas, like NYOIL said, often does not articulate what he's trying to say very well at all. I mean seriously, read some of his lyrics and you won't be able to deny this. He's still dope and "Illmatic" is undeniable, but it's not one of my favorite albums. It's probably in my top 50, but that's about it.

Anyways, on topic... Drake. I will be honest and say I haven't heard nearly enough to pass a completely fair judgment, but from what I've heard so far -- every track -- I've actually gotten him confused with Lil Wayne. That is something that I cannot respect. I was hanging out with Percee P last night and I ended up driving him home and this came up. He agrees that there is nothing more fake than an artist who bites his style from another artist. Even if it was Big Daddy Kane that he sounded EXACTLY like (of course, granted, I may actually think it's decent at first, but it wouldn't be impressive because I've heard it before) I still would be calling him out because it is fake to sound like another dude who is already out there. Does no one else see this? It's not just hip hop that has suffered this. I can't stand people in Jazz that try to sound exactly like legends. I mean doing covers is different but when you hear someone that is just copycatting a style it isn't orginal or creative and therefore I wouldn't call it art. Now, if you guys don't know already, I am open minded, so I'd be down to listen to some Drake tracks if you send me ONLY what you think I may like and I will analyze it lyrically and sound-wise, but remember, music is not just about the lyrics. I don't just hate Lil Wayne's lyrics, that's just a bonus reason. His flow pisses me off. As Joker would put it, it makes me want to eat rusty, AIDS infested heroin needles so if he has a track that sounds NORMAL and actually has good lyrics (and remember, I have a VERY high standard for what "good" lyrics are), send me the link. For me to say he's not wack though he would have to have at least 10 dope tracks and then MAYBE I'll say he's decent. I doubt it will happen but if it does I am open to it.

Oh, and ThaScience, I know you don't like arguing with more than one person at once, but obviously that first comment was directed at me. I will say that my comment was an irrational emotional reaction and I apologize. However, I still think I was fully justified in saying Nas has been a bit of a sellout since he started doing tracks with his brother. I mean it's a bit hypocritical to claim "hip hop is dead" and then work with the same people that your fans believe are killing it, but not only is he working with these artists -- together they are making music that is completely unattractive to his fan base and dumbed down from his usual AND, the biggest reason I call him a sellout is, as you said, he's giving an opinion not because he believes it, but because it is what the media pays him to say. If this is true, I define a sellout as someone who goes against his better judgment in favor of money. Well, this fits that description. Therefore he's a sellout. If this is the definition of a sellout and Nas is doing this, it follows that he is a sellout. It is pure logic and it is math based. A + B = C. If A and B (Nas is doing A) then C (Nas is the result of A + B). Completely logical argument. Idk if you can actually argue against that without being completely false.

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i love how this casuallllly crops up lol, thats cool man especialy since hes your favourite emcee

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Did u see percee p rap in person

Uncharted, it's not like that. Percee really doesn't spit for people in person that often unless he's doing a show. What we did do was chill at a tattoo parlor/art gallery that Perce and my man Mnemonic were talking about doing a music video at and listening to "Perseverance" while everyone else was smoking weed (Percee is straight-edge. I guess he's never been drunk before, done any drugs or smoked anything which is something we share in common). Mostly we were talking about different things. He seems to prefer taking back streets to freeways so we took like 1 hour plus to get to his house and we were just talking about shit. He was showing me videos of his family (he has 2 kids) and things like that. Man, this dude is the true definition of perseverance though. He lives in a gated community, paid for by hip hop and he still takes the bus 40 miles every day to get to Melrose to Fat Beats to sell his music like a street hustler all day every day.

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