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| I_Guy |
Date: Tuesday, 20/Jan/09, 1:10 PM | Message # 31 |
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Yes, to a degree Biggie had a choice, but making the right choices are sooooooooooooooooo much easier said than done. I guess what the real problem with gangsta rap is that too many people don't see it for what it is and unfortunately they want to idolize the negatives of someone else's life. I guess the problem is that there isn't enough people who educate themselves enough to recognize sensationalism when they see it. For me all the gangsta rap shit is fascinating, and not because it is flamboyant and edgy, it's fascinating because it clearly demonstrates the tragedy of humanity. -The tragedy of how we can let an entire culture eat itself, and there is simply nothing we can do about it. How it is a result of history (slavery) and how the effects of one people oppressing another affects the far future for a long time (even though we pretend it doesn't). So many things are connected, and one thing I have realized is that there are no absolutes without exceptions. You know, Socrates was wise because he knew he wasn't. Now, who the hell says art can't ruin culture (although ideally I don't approve). No one says that art is a positive medium of expression. Art is simply the creation of something out of nothing and designed by the human mind with the intent to express thought. Just because it serves a negative purpose does not make it not art. Understand definitions before drawing conclusions. To me it isn't de-evolution until it breaks the sciences of that artform. (Example - Soulja Boy -He breaks the sciences of art by producing non-harmonic beats with simplistic melodies and antirythm along with incoherent lyrics.) I guess I try to see things on too large of a scale. Everything that I consider I first consider through its affect on the world and humanity. Then I evaluate its value. I try to analyze this shit with an alien point of view, so that I can see these issues clearly.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
Message edited by I_Guy - Tuesday, 20/Jan/09, 1:22 PM
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| 11thPlague |
Date: Tuesday, 20/Jan/09, 1:22 PM | Message # 32 |
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dude that is crazy i love how you keep explaining things. thats exactly how i feel about all this i just could never explain it as good as you are.
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| I_Guy |
Date: Tuesday, 20/Jan/09, 1:23 PM | Message # 33 |
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Quote (11thPlague) dude that is crazy i love how you keep explaining things. thats exactly how i feel about all this i just could never explain it as good as you are
Its all good man. Just wait for my album, its all on there.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 20/Jan/09, 1:28 PM | Message # 34 |
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thats the problem I_Guy u are to alien for this age u try to see the people from above but if u want to understand reality u must be whit your feet on the ground ( No diss) u are to much of a philosopher and thats what ruins in somehow of a degree your point about music and i see u are talking about gangsta rap i now understand what u want to say cause when it comes to gangsta rap i am on the same level you should check my blog called Things Just Ain’t the Same”: Hip-Hop’s Reconstruction of the Gangster Rap Identity! i think u will like it heres the link http://realhiphop4ever.ucoz.com/blog/2008-11-11-5
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| I_Guy |
Date: Tuesday, 20/Jan/09, 1:46 PM | Message # 35 |
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Quote (Menace) i think u will like it heres the link
Yeah I liked it. Similar arguments go for some other rap forms as well. But the gangsta rap argument is my defense for Biggie. Now to get to the point, he's no MC, but he is still hip hop. Although, yes in some ways, he did sell out, but he ain't my homeboy so who really cares. His music (art) is what I appreciate.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
Message edited by I_Guy - Tuesday, 20/Jan/09, 1:47 PM
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 20/Jan/09, 3:15 PM | Message # 36 |
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but the problem is me personally i don't appreciate his music
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| Acekat00o |
Date: Tuesday, 20/Jan/09, 3:46 PM | Message # 37 |
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hell i nevver listened anything from Biggie in my life 
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| Uncharted |
Date: Tuesday, 20/Jan/09, 4:38 PM | Message # 38 |
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Quote (Acekat00o) hell i nevver listened anything from Biggie in my life
wow^^^^^^ but i one of my friends went to the movies this weekend to see notorious and he it the movie wasnt all that good (besides the biggie and lil kim sex scene interested him).
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| I_Guy |
Date: Wednesday, 21/Jan/09, 3:56 AM | Message # 39 |
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As close to an Emcee Biggie gets (before he got famous). Biggie Smalls - "Biggie With The Hype Shit".mp3 - 7.45MB Biggie Smalls - "Microphone Murderer".mp3 - 3.62MB Biggie Smalls - "Another Rough One".mp3 - 3.13MB Biggie Smalls - "Guaranteed Raw".mp3 - 6.29MB
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
Message edited by I_Guy - Wednesday, 21/Jan/09, 4:15 AM
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| eboyd |
Date: Wednesday, 21/Jan/09, 4:14 AM | Message # 40 |
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yeah, Biggie's cool. just not my style though. dude was real. maybe not hip hop's greatest rep, but still real.
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| Uncharted |
Date: Wednesday, 21/Jan/09, 5:24 PM | Message # 41 |
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lol my friend told me that it had some horrible ratings too
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| 11thPlague |
Date: Wednesday, 21/Jan/09, 5:36 PM | Message # 42 |
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Quote (coolmon) lol my friend told me that it had some horrible ratings too Yeah it did do good. it had a few bad reviews but what movie doesnt. For the most part it got good reviews.
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| Menace |
Date: Wednesday, 21/Jan/09, 5:37 PM | Message # 43 |
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Quote (Joker13) weird i heard it did good in the box office for a hip hop movie naah not really check this http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472198/ he has just 5.6 even Brown Sugar and ATL has more then the Biggie Movie
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| Menace |
Date: Wednesday, 21/Jan/09, 5:42 PM | Message # 44 |
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Quote (Joker13) it styll has some time to gain money thats not a website that rates her movie after her sells the people rate the movies and yeah it still has time to run all over but i guarantee from a scale from 1 to 10 the biggie movie will remain at 5 i hardly believe it will reach 6
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| Uncharted |
Date: Wednesday, 21/Jan/09, 6:09 PM | Message # 45 |
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Quote (Menace) he has just 5.6 even Brown Sugar and ATL has more then the Biggie Movie
yeah my friend told me that too
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