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| eboyd |
Date: Wednesday, 21/Jan/09, 6:27 PM | Message # 46 |
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and the IMDB is the big movie rating organization. they are like the officials on celebrities and movies. it's like a database, not an opinion poll thing, which makes it even more official and important.
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| NtG |
Date: Thursday, 22/Jan/09, 9:49 PM | Message # 47 |
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Tupac: Ressurection > Any Biggie movie that will ever be made.
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| Menace |
Date: Thursday, 22/Jan/09, 9:53 PM | Message # 48 |
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Quote (NtG) Tupac: Ressurection > Any Biggie movie that will ever be made. WORD !! WORD AND WORD that doc movie is great the movie is made in tupacs own words the movie was nominated for an Oscar too
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| NtG |
Date: Thursday, 22/Jan/09, 9:55 PM | Message # 49 |
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Quote (Menace) WORD !! WORD AND WORD that doc movie is great the movie is made in tupacs own words the movie was nominated for an Oscar too
that movie gave me an overwhelming love for Pac (no homo)
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| Menace |
Date: Thursday, 22/Jan/09, 10:00 PM | Message # 50 |
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Quote (NtG) that movie gave me an overwhelming love for Pac (no homo) lol i even made a Tupac tribute on youtube just look at the youtube vids LOL i really like the dude he represented me tough i admit it studying Assata and the black panthers made be more open to what tupac was saying i understood him but the wrong choices in life can get u killed thats what i learned from him in a whole
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| Boner-Jamz-11 |
Date: Thursday, 22/Jan/09, 11:00 PM | Message # 51 |
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resurrection!!! that was a great doc., i know a bunch of people who hated it because they wanted to see a "movie"
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Friday, 23/Jan/09, 3:34 AM | Message # 52 |
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Quote (I_Guy) As far as his status as a rapper, I agree, he's definitely not the best rapper ever and yes he was mainstream, but here's the problem. I think we get too stuck in what is underground and what isn't underground and that when it's corporate it ain't real but when it's underground it always is. The Iseley brothers, Temptations, Four Tops, Marvin Gaye, Al Green, ....all mainstream R&B and Soul singers, but they are legends. Is their shit not real, maybe, but is it not respectable because it's mainstream, not neccessarily. The best example is Marvin Gaye. Motown was the most mainstream soul label in the nation, yet he is notoriously respected. It's the same with other genres, rock - ZZ Top, Led Zepellin, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Ozzy, etc. It goes even further than that. Movie directors, actors, painters, novelists, poets, philosophers, and even athletes all fall into two categories. "A" list and "B" list. "A" being mainstream, "B" not being mainstream. But usually in those forms of occupation they are thought to be mainstream because they are good at what they do. And, well, isn't that how hip hop used to be. It would be different if Biggie was pulled out of the suburbs and turned into a street thug to sell albums. But he wasn't, he represented what was real and what he had to live in from where he came. I can tell you some of the best actors of all time and some of the best directors of all time, were mainstream. Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola, Brian DePalma, Sydney Lumet, Alfred Hitchcock, Steven Spielberg, Sergio Leone, Quentin Tarantino -all among the best directos of all time. Marlon Brando, Humphrey Bogart, Edward G. Robinson, Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino, Clint Eastwood, Meryl Streep -all among the best actors of all time. And guess what, they were all mainstream. You have to sit back and look at the whole picture through more than one perspective. Do you think followers of those genres do what we sit here and do: scrutinize and criticize artists based on there merit of being underground or not. So what I'm trying to say is that it shouldn't be about mainstream or underground, it should be about real or fake. Biggie wasn't fake so he's got my respect. But originality is important to me. He wasn't that original as far as content, so there's no respect there. But! What he was trying to say was well expressed, so he gains more of my respect. Do you see where I'm going. He shouldn't be slapped with a label that says "mainstream" or, "corporate" especially. He should be analyzed as a human being and also as an artist based on the individual motives and attributes that compose him. Basically he was mainstream because he knew he would have died in the streets. He was given a chance to make it big thanks to a little talent he had called rhyme. Puffy gave him that chance. When your dealing with life and death, you don't give a fuck about whats "mainstream" or "corporate." You just want to get the fuck out, by whatever means. I thought yall would think a little deeper than what you have, at least something better than throwing around nothing but "mainstream," "underground," and "corporate." Anyways, the movie isn't too good. to me being real has nothing to do with whether your underground or mainstream, to me being real is when your being real, not just doing shit for popualrity or fame but when your genuinely making music because you really like the music you make and are in it for the music and the art, thats what makes an aritst real to me. not whether they're underground or mainstream.
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Friday, 23/Jan/09, 3:41 AM | Message # 53 |
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Quote (eboyd) actually, there are plenty of critics who talk poorly about people in all those genres. for example, in rock and roll Santana, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Kiss, etc., are all, for later career moves, considered sell outs and bands like Grateful Dead consider all the glam metal bands to be corporate sellouts from the beginning. man kiss are the biggest sellouts in all of music, and they're actually proud of it too lol. i hated their music as well. rhcp's old school fans call them sellouts coz they changed they're sound from punk to just rock and metalica changed they're sound from thrash metal to rock and metal. but i don't consider them sellouts at all they just had a change in they're taste of music.
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Friday, 23/Jan/09, 3:48 AM | Message # 54 |
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Quote (eboyd) lol! fuck porn mags. teh intranet pr0n ftw!!!!! it pwns!!!! n00bz! fuck porn mags just watch the videos, im suprised porn mags still exist. Quote (I_Guy) Yes, to a degree Biggie had a choice, but making the right choices are sooooooooooooooooo much easier said than done. I guess what the real problem with gangsta rap is that too many people don't see it for what it is and unfortunately they want to idolize the negatives of someone else's life. I guess the problem is that there isn't enough people who educate themselves enough to recognize sensationalism when they see it. For me all the gangsta rap shit is fascinating, and not because it is flamboyant and edgy, it's fascinating because it clearly demonstrates the tragedy of humanity. -The tragedy of how we can let an entire culture eat itself, and there is simply nothing we can do about it. How it is a result of history (slavery) and how the effects of one people oppressing another affects the far future for a long time (even though we pretend it doesn't). So many things are connected, and one thing I have realized is that there are no absolutes without exceptions. You know, Socrates was wise because he knew he wasn't. Now, who the hell says art can't ruin culture (although ideally I don't approve). No one says that art is a positive medium of expression. Art is simply the creation of something out of nothing and designed by the human mind with the intent to express thought. Just because it serves a negative purpose does not make it not art. Understand definitions before drawing conclusions. To me it isn't de-evolution until it breaks the sciences of that artform. (Example - Soulja Boy -He breaks the sciences of art by producing non-harmonic beats with simplistic melodies and antirythm along with incoherent lyrics.) I guess I try to see things on too large of a scale. Everything that I consider I first consider through its affect on the world and humanity. Then I evaluate its value. I try to analyze this shit with an alien point of view, so that I can see these issues clearly. gangsta rap is what first got me into hip hop in the first place coz i liked the anger in the songs. esp The Chronic and N.W.A. before that i used to hate rap and only liked rock. i only like gangsta rap when its done right, but there are a lot of cases where its done really stupidly and just looks so corny. I saw this music video of a song by the Geto Boys i think it was called Damn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta, the lyrics from it were just so corny and lame to me coz gangsta life isn't all good its a hard life but these guys were rapping about it as if it was a breeze and felt great and was easy. another example is that song No Vaseline Part 2 by Kurupt where he disses Snoop Dogg, Soopafly and Daz and keeps repeating "Im Gangsta and you're not", all the time.
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| PNobleDaLyricist |
Date: Saturday, 24/Jan/09, 0:07 AM | Message # 55 |
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i saw the biggie movie..... i liked it....alot 2 me biggie was real about his music...especially in the 2nd album "puff, i need 2 change my style...im not a drug dealer anymore im not the same nigga as before...i got 2 kids now,a wife...if i do this again things gotta be different" not exact words but 2 me thats not sell n out thats maturing...alot of rappers dont stay true to there selves they stay in the past(JAY-Z FOR EXAMPLE) if u ask me, that right there is be n real not sell n out...he do n what he wants 2 do and after he made sky's the limit...he was happy and said "i made it"...if u not a drug dealer and a label makes u rap about drug deal n...then thats sell n out 2 me(i think pac aint sell out, its just that he was brainwashed by force and when he realized it and was about 2 leave death row...he got killed...da weed aint help eitha) Biggie spit things he go through or just make lyrical word play shit...in my opinion...i say he didnt sell out he matured over time
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| Lord_Meth |
Date: Saturday, 24/Jan/09, 0:09 AM | Message # 56 |
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Quote (PNobleDaLyricist) not exact words but 2 me thats not sell n out thats maturing...alot of rappers dont stay true to there selves they stay in the past(JAY-Z FOR EXAMPLE) if u ask me, that right there is be n real not sell n out...he do n what he wants 2 do and after he made sky's the limit...he was happy and said "i made it"...if u not a drug dealer and a label makes u rap about drug deal n...then thats sell n out 2 me(i think pac aint sell out, its just that he was brainwashed by force and when he realized it and was about 2 leave death row...he got killed...da weed aint help eitha) Biggie spit things he go through or just make lyrical word play shit...in my opinion...i say he didnt sell out he matured over time
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| LyricalContent |
Date: Saturday, 24/Jan/09, 0:27 AM | Message # 57 |
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Quote (PNobleDaLyricist) alot of rappers dont stay true to there selves they stay in the past
truth they don't allow themselves to grow they get stuck in one mindset and they stay their it's as if you don't follow a curtain pattern then they label you as not being real to me it's like this i like wearing three peace suits there i used to wear baggie pants and timbs because it complimented my lifestyle at that time now am i a sell out because i changed the path that i was walking on? nay because what if the path that i was on was wrong? and need to be changed wouldn't it be wise for me to change my path? do you know what the definition of insanity is? doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.
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| Boner-Jamz-11 |
Date: Saturday, 24/Jan/09, 1:59 PM | Message # 58 |
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...movie sucked
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| Lord_Meth |
Date: Saturday, 24/Jan/09, 2:05 PM | Message # 59 |
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Quote (EYAR15) ...movie sucked
so does all the Chuck Norris movies
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| Boner-Jamz-11 |
Date: Saturday, 24/Jan/09, 2:09 PM | Message # 60 |
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Chuck Norris movies are too manly for u, stick to watching your type of movies, like the notebook, or finding nemo
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