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KANYE WEST - 808's and Heartbreak
Lord_Meth Date: Monday, 15/Dec/08, 9:17 AM | Message # 61

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its sucks. the guy can't sing and he know's it and that really pisses me off,

thats ur opinion noone can stop wat u think about it

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it doesn't matter if kanye said its not hip hop, cuz all his fans are classifying it as a hip hop album. So if they want to call it hip hop I'm quick to call it garbage (garbage is a new genre by the way)

Cuz 90% of fans dont know wat Hip Hop is.. Half of them are still saying Lil Wayne is the best rapper
I know wat Hip Hop is and I know this album isnt Hip Hop. but I still like it even if its pop like Menace said. I still think its a strong album


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Uncharted Date: Monday, 15/Dec/08, 7:45 PM | Message # 62

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im a kanye west fan but the albulm sucks leave it at that

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Watcher Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 8:43 AM | Message # 63

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This dude should be removed from the group man.. Kanye is whack, period.
11thPlague Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 11:22 AM | Message # 64

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LOL who the fuck said that stupid shit, kick who out for liking the album??? Yall are fucking idiots. I understand not liking something not your style or whatever, but to bash it like it was the fucking Al-Qeada is ridiculous. Yall are just as closed minded as the fucks that say Lil Wayne is the "best rapper alive" I respect my man Meth for standing up and saying some facts. And who the fuck is this guy talking about kick him??? Like i said before this group is to preach hip hop a voice a culture an art. Open yalls mind up to set an example of what we are trying to teach Acceptance.
Menace Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 11:36 AM | Message # 65

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that dude is a coward he didn't show himself but this movement is for UNDERGROUND promotion we help the ones that have no voice we are the voice of the voiceless

11thPlague Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 11:49 AM | Message # 66

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Phew!!! cry Thanks for sparing me menace i was expecting a full on attack from you :D

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Menace Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 12:21 PM | Message # 67

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well as i said the new kanye album is not relevant to the hip hop community and presents another major merger of pop culture and trends into our cultural movement but that dude's comments about u are unfounded and stupid regardless of what man

Watcher Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 2:19 PM | Message # 68

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I didn't comment about him.. Just call me the Watcher, I don't care. If you could point at the part of my post where I may've possibly commented about him then I'd appreciate it. I merely suggested that he should be removed from the group as I was under the impression that we were about real Hip-Hop. Kanye is a part of what's wrong with Hip-Hop right now, he's pop although he says he's 'Saving Hip-Hop' or some shit. In my opinion the guy is in the same group as Lil Wayne without a doubt, even worse at times. I heard him on some techno shit the other day.. He had rapped before (not that good) like on 'Classic' with KRS-One, Rakim & Nas although he did not belong there with the others that was a good joint, the rest is shit. I really do wish that he wouldn't call what he did Hip-Hop and if he did that then I wouldn't even have a problem with him. I don't care if you like another genre of music but ugh.

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I probably should've added this to the comment above as well but then again I have no edit option.. I just finished reading the purple-font-guy's comment about Kanye's album being 'Hip-Hop' because his beats are "Hip-Hop Music Beats..." Come on man.. That's not Hip-Hop.. Hip-Hop is music with soul man, Kanye doesn't have any, maybe he was born without one or he must've sold it to some fat man sitting behind a desk to make what he makes.

Also I don't give a flying fuck if the rock/jazz/blues/random shit music fans in the record store put his stuff under Hip-Hop, they don't know. I could put on some beat and start singing and tell the people that don't even listen to this shit that it's Hip-Hop and they'll label it Hip-Hop. Kanye isn't Hip-Hop, Soulja Boy isn't Hip-Hop, Lil Wayne isn't Hip-Hop, Lil Jon isn't Hip-Hop, you're not Hip-Hop.

11thPlague Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 2:33 PM | Message # 69

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LOL okay yeah i already had this debate with someone credable. So im not gonna try to prove my point anymore. Im just gonna say that a song having "Soul" is a persons OPINION. OPINIONS dont make a song. hip hop MUSIC was created on a certain formula that made HIP HOP music as far as the beats the breaks drum loops and sampling to name a few. So yes it is CATAGORIZED as HIP HOP you may not like it and thats fine i can respect that but it is what it is.

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Menace Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 2:36 PM | Message # 70

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MUSIC was created on a certain formula that made HIP HOP music as far as the beats the breaks drum loops and sampling to name a few. So yes it is CATAGORIZED as HIP HOP you may not like it and thats fine i can respect that but it is what it is.

so who cares if a label and a corporate machine ca CATAGORIZED kanye as hip hop?? WE all know its NOT a machine doesn't speak for me a MACHINE doesn't know whats what they just SELL AND SELL


11thPlague Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 2:40 PM | Message # 71

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okay yeah i already had this debate with someone credable. So im not gonna try to prove my point anymore.


:D That was you menace your the credable one.

We already debated this lol

Menace Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 2:44 PM | Message # 72

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biggrin That was you menace your the credable one.

We already debated this lol

yes i know but u didn't prove nothing to me cause u are backing the corporate machines beliefs if a corporate machine tells u something doesn't mean its true in a historical sense u are against the "people's beliefs" or Folk Beliefs and a common man has more credibility and common sense then a corporate machine trust me man


11thPlague Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 2:49 PM | Message # 73

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i know i didnt prove anything to you. it was a draw cause you didnt change my mind and i didnt change your mind. SO STOP lol im playing its too much typing im doing here at work lol
Menace Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 2:51 PM | Message # 74

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i know i didnt prove anything to you. it was a draw cause you didnt change my mind and i didnt change your mind. SO STOP lol im playing its too much typing im doing here at work lol

ohh ok i will stop keeping u back from your work but WAKE UP DUDE U MAKE YOUR OWN STANDARDS NOT THE TELEVISION


Watcher Date: Tuesday, 06/Jan/09, 2:51 PM | Message # 75

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What the fuck is credable? No one else is using the name Watcher so why can't I? So what you're getting at here is because that I didn't register with some other internet name I don't know anything? That I don't have an opinion?

You just proved my point again though, you think that it's just the beat that makes songs Hip-Hop.. You must be incredibly shallow man. Acapella rapping is Hip-Hop.. It doesn't even need the beat.

Only thing you've actually proved here is that you're into flawed theories and mainstream/watered down Hip-Hop: 'Pop'.. Again I don't give a shit what it says on the rack you bought it from.

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