We're putting together a list of top 5 hip hop albums from every year from 1984 all the way up until 2010. we're already doing it in the youtube group but we should use the other networks to contribute to the list too.
the way it will add up is the albums get 5 points if it gets named number 1, 4 points for being named 2, 3 points for number 3, 2 points for number 4 and 1 point for being named number 5 on peoples top 5 lists.
after the lists are drawn the top 2 albums from each year will be put against other albums in a tournament style brackets, we will have votes to see which album will come out as the greatest
1. LL Cool J - Radio 20pts 2. RunDMC - Kings of Rock 13pts 3. Too $hort - Don't Stop Rappin 8pts 4. World Class Wreckin Cru - World Class 7pts 5. DJ Grandmaster Flash - They Said It Couldn't Be Done 5pts 5. Kurtis Blow - America 5pts
1. Run DMC - Raising Hell 19pts 2. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill 11pts 2. Doug E Fresh - Oh My God 11pts 4. Kool Moe Dee - Kool Moe Dee 9pts 5. Whodini - Back In Black 7pts
1. Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full 30pts 2. Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded 25pts 3. Public Enemy - Yo Bumrush The Show 20pts 4. NWA - NWA & The Posse 9pts 5. Ice T - Rhyme Pays 7pts
1. Eric B & Rakim - Follow The Leader 22 pts 2. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back 19pts 3. EPMD - Strictly Business 15pts 4. NWA - Straight Outta Compton 14pts 5. Big Daddy Kane - Long Live The Kane 9pts
1. The D.O.C., No One Can Do It Better - 24pts 2. De La Soul, 3 Feet High & Rising - 17pts 2. Kool G Rap & DJ Polo, Road To Riches - 16pts 4. Big Daddy Kane, Its A Big Daddy Kane Thing - 11pts 5. Ice-T, Iceberg/Feedom of Speech...Just Watch What You Say - 10pts
1. A Tribe Called Quest - Peoples Instinctive Travels & the Paths of Rhythm 16pts 2. Lord Finesse & DJ Mike Smooth- Funky Technician 13pts 3. Eric B & Rakim - Let The Rhythm Hit Em 10pts 4. Ice Cube - Amerikkkas Most Wanted 8pts 5. Kool G Rap & DJ Polo - Wanted: Dead Or Alive 8pts
1. Ice Cube - Death Certificate 24pts 2. 2pac - 2pacalypse Now 23pts 3. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory 19pts 4. NWA - Niggaz4life 15pts 5. Gang Starr - Step In The Arena 12pts
1. Dr. Dre - The Chronic 29pts 2. Pete Rock & CL Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother 26pts 3. Gang Starr - Daily Operation 14pts 4. Ice Cube - The Predator 12pts 5. Comptons Most Wanted - Music To Drive By To 10pts
1. Wu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) 38pts 2. A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders 17pts 3. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle 13pts 4. De La Soul - Buhlonne Mind State 8pts 5. Guru - Jazzmatazz vol. 1 6pts
1. Nas - Illmatic 39pts 2. Jeru The Damaja - The Sun Rises In The East 21pts 3. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die 16pts 4. Common - Ressurection 13pts 5. Outkast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik 12pts
1. GZA - Liquid Swords 37pts 2. Raekwon - Only Built For Cuban Linx 30pts 3. 2Pac - Me Against the World 21pts 4. Mobb Deep - The Infamous 17pts 5. The Pharcyde - Labincanifornia 15pts
1. Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst 17.5pts 2. Nas - It Was Written 14pts 3. The Roots - Illadelph Halfife 12pts 3. OutKast - ATLiens 12 5. Fugees - The Score 10
1. Rakim - The 18th Letter 26 2. OC - Jewelz 18 3. The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death 13 4. Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever 13 5. Common - One Day It Will All Make Sense 8
1. Gang Starr - Moment of Truth 24pts 2. Mos Def & Talib Kweli Are: Black Star 17pts 3. Big Pun - Capital Punishment 12pts 4. Brand Nubian - The Foundation 8pts 5. Killah Priest - Heavy Mental 7pts
1. Eminem - The Slim Shady LP 35 2. Dr. Dre - 2001 21 3. Mos Def - Black on Both Sides 17 4. The Roots - Things Fall Apart 10 5. Pharoahe Monch - Internal Affairs 8 5. MF DOOM - Operation Doomsday! 8
1. Masta Ace - Disposable Arts 18pts 2. Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Vol. 1 9pts 3. Aesop Rock - Labor Days 7pts 3. Cormega - The Realness 7pts 5. Eyedea - The Many Faces of Oliver Hart 6.5pts
1. INI - Center of Attention 28 2. Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Vol. 2 16 3. Gang Starr - The Ownerz 15 4. 50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin 10 5. Insight - Updated Software V. 2.5 8
1. Blue Scholars - Bayani 16 2. Percee P - Perseverance 12 3. Blu & Exile - Below the Heavens 9 3. Y-Society - Travel At Your Own Pace 9 5. Cilvaringz - I 8
1. eLZhi - The Preface 10 2. Panacea - A Mind On A Ship Through Time 9 3. Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons, You Paint That Shit Gold 8 4. Q-Tip - The Renaissance 5 4. Siah and Yeshua DapoED - The Visualz Anthology 5 4. Pacewon & Mr. Green - The Only Color That Matters Is Green 5 4. K-Rino - Triple Darkness Vol. 1 (Wreck Time) 5 4. Invincible - Shapeshifters 5
1. Fashawn - Boy Meets World 17 2. CunninLynguists - Strange Journey 2 14 3. Raekwon - Only Built For Cuban Linx 2 11 4. Souls of Mischief - Montezuma's Revenge 10 4. Cyne - Water For Mars 10
1. Panacea - 12 Step Program 18 2. Black Sheep - From The Pool of Black Genius 15 3. The Roots - How I Got Over 14 4. Nas & Damian Marley - Distant Relatives 10 5. Random & K-Murdock - Forever Famicom 9
Elimination Rounds:
Round 1:
Run-DMC, Run-DMC vs Beastie Boys, Licensed to Ill
Whodini, Escape vs Boogie Down Productions, Criminal Minded
LL Cool J, Radio vs Run-DMC, Raising Hell
Run-DMC, Kings of Rock vs Eric B & Rakim, Paid In Full Eric B & Rakim, Follow The Leader vs De La Soul, 3 Feet High & Rising/Kool G Rap, Road To Riches
Public Enemy, It Takes A Nation of Millions vs The D.O.C., No One Can Do It Better
A Tribe Called Quest, A Peoples Instinctive Travels & the Paths of Rhythm vs Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Mecca & the Soul Brother
Ice Cube, Death Certificate vs Lord Finesse & DJ Mike Smooth, Funky Technician
Dr. Dre, The Chronic vs 2pac, 2Pacalypse Now
Wu-Tang Clan, Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) vs Jeru The Damaja, The Sun Rises In The East
Nas, Illmatic vs A Tribe Called Quest, Midnight Marauders
GZA, Liquid Swords vs Nas, It Was Written
Raekwon, Only Built For Cuban Linx vs Dr. Octogon, Dr. Octogonecologyst
Rakim, 18th Letter vs Mos Def & Talib Kweli, Are Black Star
Gang Starr, Moment of Truth vs OC, Jewelz
Eminem, The Slim Shady LP vs Jedi Mind Tricks,Violent By Design
Dr. Dre, 2001 vs Deltron 3030, Deltron 3030
Masta Ace, Disposable Arts vs Atmosphere, Godlovesugly
Immortal Technique, Revolutionary Vol. 1 vs Nas, The Lost Tapes
InI, Center of Attention vs Masta Ace, A Long Hot Summer
Immortal Technique, Revolutionary Vol. 2 vs Madvillainy, Madvillainy
Nujabes, Modal Soul vs CunninLynguists, A Piece of Strange
Edan, Beauty and the Beat vs J Dilla, The Shining
Elzhi, The Preface vs Percee P, Perseverance
Blue Scholars, Bayani vs Panacea, A Mind On a Ship Through Time
Fashawn, Boy Meets World vs Black Sheep, From the Pool of Black Genius
CunninLynguists, Strange Journey Vol. 2 vs Panacea, 12 Step Program Round 2:
Run-DMC, Run-DMC vs De La Soul, 3 Feet High & Rising
Run-DMC, Raising Hell vs Public Enemy, It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Eric B & Rakim, Paid In Full vs Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Mecca and the Soul Brother
Dr. Dre, The Chronic vs Wu-Tang Clan, Enter the 36 Chambers
Nas, Illmatic vs Boogie Down Productions, Criminal Minded
GZA, Liquid Swords vs Ice Cube, Death Certificate
Raekwon, Only Built For Cuban Linx vs Nas, The Lost Tapes
Rakim, The 18th Letter vs InI, Center of Attention
Masta Ace, Disposable Arts vs Deltron 3030, Deltron 3030
Gang Starr, Moment of Truth vs Madvillain, Madvillainy
CunninLynguists, A Piece of Strange vs Panacea, A Mind On A Ship Through Time
Edan, Beauty and the Beat vs Fashawn, Boy Meets World
eLZhi, The Preface vs Panacea, 12 Step Program
Round 3:
De La Soul, 3 Feet High & Rising vs Rakim, The 18th Letter
Public Enemy, It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back vs Deltron 3030, Deltron 3030
Eric B & Rakim, Paid In Full vs Madvillain, Madvillainy
how the hell can you put aesop rock and cormega above cannibal ox... jesus christ the cold vein is an absolute classic.
idk about cormega but i have listened to Labor Days and The Cold Vein both in intricate detail and while El-P's production is pretty much amazing on TCV, so is the production from Blockhead, Omega One, and Aesop Rock on LD. also, LD isn't graced with lines that are such gems as this:
"My mother said "you sucked my pussy when you came out"/" -Vast Aire - "A B-Boy's Alpha" LMFAO!!!!!
lyrically speaking, Labor Days is superior by leaps and bounds and the production is comparable. LD >>>> TCV
Was sorta disappointed with Guru's solo album outside the Jazzmatazz project, I loved the jazz toned joints, and it seemed he sorta gave in with this album, and also the third Jazzmatazz btw (Fucking too much with that R&B), which came out around the same time. Haven't heard too many albums from this year, been checking some of the listed ones out.
Loved De La's AOI: Bionix, played it like 50 times all way through, but I have to let J-Live get first place this time. Masta Ace released a solid too. 2pac's "Until the End of Time" was pretty good too, full of original verses which impressed me, but it could well have been a 1 disc album, if they cut off the wack and average songs, which is the reason I pulled it down from the top 5. I haven't heard Eyedea's album all way through, but it seems really great. Same goes for Self Scientific. Not really able to put one over the other so I guess they're tied.
1. J-Live - "The Best Part" 2. De La Soul - "AOI: Bionix" 3. Masta Ace - "Disposable Arts" 4 & 5. Eyedea - "The Many Faces of Oliver Hart" & Self Scientific - "Self Science" (1,5 points each)
ok here are the votes unless someone else wants to vote you still can
a lot of divided votes this year, everyone had a different number 1, a few had completely different top 5's altogether, the only album in most top 5's was Masta Ace Disposable Arts.
listening to those tracks El Matador i wish i had checked out Eyedea's album now those sound sick, anyway hers the list, idk what we're gonna do about all the ties lol i guess we'll have to have a tie break thread for this year during the elimination rounds
1. Masta Ace - Disposable Arts 13 2. Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Vol. 1 7 2. Aesop Rock - Labor Days 7 2. Cormega - The Realness 7 5. Eyedea - The Many Faces of Oliver Hart 6 6. CunninLynguists - Will Rap For Food 5 7. J-Live - The Best Part 5 8. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me 5 9. De La Soul - AOI: Bionix 4 10 Jay-Z - The Blueprint 4 11 Nas - Stillmatic 3 12 Wu-Tang Clan - Iron Flag 3 13 Cannibal Ox - Cold Vein 2 14 Sticky Fingaz - Blacktrash: The Autobiography of Kirk Jones 2 15 Self Scientific - Self Science 1 16 Nas - Stillmatic 1
1. Masta Ace - Disposable Arts 13 2. Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Vol. 1 7 2. Aesop Rock - Labor Days 7 2. Cormega - The Realness 7 5. Eyedea - The Many Faces of Oliver Hart 6 6. CunninLynguists - Will Rap For Food 5 7. J-Live - The Best Part 5 8. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me 5 9. De La Soul - AOI: Bionix 4 10 Jay-Z - The Blueprint 4 11 Nas - Stillmatic 3 12 Wu-Tang Clan - Iron Flag 3 13 Cannibal Ox - Cold Vein 2 14 Sticky Fingaz - Blacktrash: The Autobiography of Kirk Jones 2 15 Self Scientific - Self Science 1 16 Nas - Stillmatic 1
the points are so low for this year, it shows how bad hip hop was that year ....
1. Atmosphere - Godlovesugly 2. Mr. Lif - Emergency Rations (yes, i am putting an EP on the list. that's how bad 2002 was lol) 3. Antipop Consortium - Arrhythmia 4. Common - Electric Circus 5. Jurassic 5 - Power In Numbers/People Under The Stairs - OST (2 albums of which i have only heard a handful of tracks, but they were the only other albums that sounded like they might be good).
1.The Roots-Phrenology 2.Nas The Lost Tapes (idk if this counts) 3.Talib Kweli-Quality 4.Common-Electric Circus (i swear this album is soo underrated, *record label shitty promotion*) 5.Atmosphere-God Loves Ugly ....
do compilation albums count? unreleased do but greatest hits dont? and does Large Pro's LP count even though it was released as a promo copy only?? "We took pride in intellect and skill Now you gotta have some sex appeal to get a record deal" - K-RINO
1. Venezuela Subterranea - Venezuela Subterranea (A classic in my country. I personally recommend it 2. Nas - The Lost Tapes 3. People Under The Stairs - OST 4. Nas - God's Son 5. GZA - Legend Of The Liquid Sword Anime-Planet.com - anime | manga | reviews
btw 2005 is the worst year in hip-hop. I've analyzed this year... and all I got is top 2 lol
how do you figure? i know it's premature, but what albums are your top 2? i can name several dope albums from 2005. it wasn't the greatest year but faaaaar better than 2001 and 2002: Edan - Beauty and the Beat, Cunninglynguists - A Piece of Strange, Tonedeff - Archetype, Self Scientific - Change, Common - Be, Cage - Hell's Winter, Little Brother - The Minstrel Show, Kanye West - Late Registration, Quasimoto - The Further Adventures of Lord Quas, Atmosphere - You Can't Imagine How Much Fun We're Having, DANGERDOOM - The Mouse and the Mask, Murs & Slug - Felt 2, Nujabes - Modal Soul, Sage Francis - A Healthy Distrust, DJ Muggs vs. GZA - Grandmasters
also, how can you hate on the year that brought us a rap album from Tom Green????
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check my top 5, it wasn't a bad year. You just have to STOP comparing 2000's to '90s. Face it, nikkas talk about bringing back the '90s but '90s will never come back, no matter what. So, nowadays, if you can hear any type of "good music", just enjoy it.
when we talk about it being a good year we are comparing it to all other years. if the only albums that came out were by Soulja Boy for some reason, would you say "don't compare it to the 90's" or would you just say "yeah, that year sucked"? i would hope the latter. compare 2001 and 2002 to any other year in hip hop, before or after, and you will find that they are the worst.
and no, i haven't heard the albums you put in your top 5, but i've heard enough tracks off both of those Nas albums to say they are not at all top 5 worthy. i need to hear the rest on your list though. those 3 alone still can't make up for 2002 being a shitty year. it's ok though, with INI's album officially being released in 2003 as well as King Geedorah's "Take Me To Your Leader" and Immortal Technique's "Revolutionary Vol. 2", among others, it only gets much better from here
Chiens de paille - Mille et un fantômes Jigmastas - Infectious Ozomatli-Embrace the chaos Mad Doctor X - Chillonometry Dilated Peoples - Expansion Team (an ok album, nothing special) Swollen Members - Bad Dreams Fonky Family - Art de rue Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me All Natural - Second Nature (Nothing Special) Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Volume 1 (Nowhere near as good as V.2 but still pretty sick) Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein (Never really got into this one, but everyone else loves it) Kankick - From Arts Unknown DJ Krush - Zen Saul Williams - Amethyst Rock Star Less du Neuf - Le temps d'une vie Saïan Supa Crew - X Raisons 2Mex - B-Boy Adam F - Kaos: The Anti-Acoustic Warfares in Occupied Mexico
Thats all ive got from 2001, although there's probly more I dont know were from this year
Added (05/Jan/11, 12:55 PM) --------------------------------------------- My top 5 would be...
Jigmastas - Infectious Swollen Members - Bad Dreams Chiens de paille - Mille et un fantômes Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Volume 1 Kankick - From Arts Unknown
To be honest, Edan can't write a decent rhyme for shit. I need to remind myself the album, I remember it was full of psychodelic-ass beats. Haven't heard that since 2005 tho'.
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Tonedeff - Archetype
I didn't know it was released in 2005. Pervert used to be my theme song
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Self Scientific - Change, Common - Be, Little Brother - The Minstrel Show, Kanye West - Late Registration, Quasimoto - The Further Adventures of Lord Quas, Atmosphere - You Can't Imagine How Much Fun We're Having, DANGERDOOM - The Mouse and the Mask, Murs & Slug - Felt 2, Sage Francis - A Healthy Distrust
I've never heard them
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Cage - Hell's Winter
that shit sucks
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Nujabes - Modal Soul
number two on my list, Nujabes is my role model (as a producer and as a businessman). His jazzy style and samples taken from Pat Metheny shit are my shit!
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DJ Muggs vs. GZA - Grandmasters
I don't think it was a good album, I was very disappointed with it, VERY VERY disappointed. Not only me tho'.
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also, how can you hate on the year that brought us a rap album from Tom Green????
GTFOOH with that shit
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what albums are your top 2?
1. Sleep - Christopher 2. Nujabes - Modal Soul
You propably never heard of Sleep (he's a member of legendary collective Oldominion) , so check it
(quality sucks super cock, too bad cos track is DOPE!)
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when we talk about it being a good year we are comparing it to all other years. if the only albums that came out were by Soulja Boy for some reason, would you say "don't compare it to the 90's" or would you just say "yeah, that year sucked"? i would hope the latter. compare 2001 and 2002 to any other year in hip hop, before or after, and you will find that they are the worst.
lol garbage is garbage. What I'm saying is that we have to turn a blind eye on underground rappers. They don't have the same hunger and the same fire as rappers used to have in '90s but it does not mean they can't make some dope music. It's just not the same anymore. Feel me?
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and no, i haven't heard the albums you put in your top 5
I'll edit my post and put some tracks of those albums, check this shit out
MENACE 2 JOKER: Go back to Mexico you damn spic JOKER 2 MENACE: Shut up you fake nigga your a damn sand nigger not a full nigger