okay you guys need to call me before u do like 50 pages of posts
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RELIGION IS A FUCKING LOAD OF FUCKING BULLSHIT! NONE OF ITS TRUE
ITS JUST FUCKING STORYS BEEN TOLD TO BRAINWASH DUMB FUCKS LIKE YOURSELF!
OKAY RELIGION IS LIKE FIGHTING FOR WORLD PEACE! ITS HOPELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you are still young and don't know what you're saying
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Unless i see scientific evidence i refuse to believe anything from a book
you are mistaken, the Bible is not one book. it was written by several people throughout several centuries who never knew each other, yet preached the same thing because they were divinely led by God. not to mention these writings contain historical fact...they were real people. they said and did definite things. here's an example:
Luke 3:1-6
Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judea, Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, his brother Philip tetrarch of Iturea and the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias tetrarch of Abilene, while Annas and Caiaphas were high priests, the word of God came to John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness. And he went into all the region around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the remission of sins, as it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet, saying:
“ The voice of one crying in the wilderness:
‘ Prepare the way of the LORD;
Make His paths straight.
5 Every valley shall be filled
And every mountain and hill brought low;
The crooked places shall be made straight
And the rough ways smooth;
6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.’”
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Onto I-guy's video....
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Sodr do you understand the logical errors in the God theory?
To save on typing here are some well explained simple ones to start,
first of all, you say here's some logical errors in the "god theory" and the proof you give is a person asking QUESTIONS?? that haven't been ANSWERED!?!?!? if you meant to direct them at me (which i doubt you did), here's my attempt
QUESTION #1: excuse me? Christians love God more than everyone on this earth combined? if someone were against God, they're not my loved ones! this is perfectly reasonable. God loves us more than we can love anyone, so why would we love people who are against the one who loves me the most, more than they will ever love me? they send themselves to hell, not God, and if it's their decision, then yes it is sad, but that's what they chose. read the parable of the wise and foolish virgins. focus on your path first.
QUESTION #2: she claims God isn't all knowing because He has to double check things, and gives one example from the Bible .........honestly i havent heard that story, but it seems like nothing as its not popular........and im sorry, but I'm defending the God of the Bible not the quran.
QUESTION #3: adam and eve didn't listen to God. that very thought of disobeying Him was plausible and God WARNED them anyways...He specifically says if you eat of it, you will die.....He doesn't try to trap people by their mistakes and send them off to hell.....God made us so that we can choose Him or not, otherwise, it's just forced love.
QUESTION #4: this is a good one.....and to be honest i dont know (I dont know). but this doesn't mean anything. God is merciful and probably judges ONLY the people who never heard of Him according to their deeds, who knows...but if they go to hell, then so be it. God is --->>JUST<<---...He knows more than our finite minds, and ill try to justify it: around the time of Noah, EVERYONE was religious, so that means that there had to have been someone who rebelled against God and started their own "canabalistic tribe" or whatever and damned his children and so on
QUESTION #5: i agree that no finite crime should have an infinite punishment.....however, the slightest degree of a crime against GOD (who btw is INFINITE) deserves the most tormenting punishment. but what's the big deal???? He loves us and sacrificed Himself for our sake...He doesn't deserve it, but it was out of his LOVE...so....why not follow Him? here's the bottom line. we have souls...when we die, these souls go on forever. they have two destinies. you choose which one. yes you have finite crimes, but you can get away with it because of God's selfless sacrifice who did it for you and everyone.
NOW....i-guy, please still do tell me what major problems are there in the God "theory"....and i don't expect a blonde teen explaining it to me
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And onto 8-diag.
you are drifting off from where we left a few pages ago! (pg. 27)
you said:
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Unless it's backed up by scientific or emperical evidence, there is no waying for certain that you are correct.
when i said:
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Before Jesus, there were prophets who foretold His coming, this is a FACT, we have these records that date before His time. ok there are literally hundreds, just look at this site
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/prophchr.html the ONLY explanation you have is that CHRISTIANS went out of their way and wrote a fake account of a man named Jesus who fulfilled all of these
why do people still refuse to listen? the Bible says there are only wise and foolish people living on this earth....you have people like 8diag and king who are aggressive and insult me SIMPLY because i believe in the literal truth of the Bible (taken in correct context)...what is that?? thats only getting us no where
THEN i went onto answer you and still didn't get a response:
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there is something called carbon dating
it is a FACT that the old testament existed before Jesus Christ (who in FACT did exist) and ask *anyone*, they will agree
well?