p.s. eboyd, what kind of a god would not be perfect? an "imperfect god" is more of an oxymoron, dont you think?
seriously, if you assumed a god exists, wouldn't it be obvious that he is perfect?
and i-guy, what do you think of my answer to why didn't God destroy satan...is it satisfactory or what

Tell me I_Guy, who told you that God can't be compared to humans? God himself? There's no scientific research on that, no proof. God's creations were imitations of him so it's only natural that they gain all of his traits.

Was it the devil that created that Apple by the way or God? God created the devil so essentially God created hate? (Assuming that the devil did do that)

because you didn't give a solid answer

human emotions are emotions...there is nothing wrong with emotions itself...we are created in God's image after all, we were initially perfect

God (probably) does act upon emotions, but He is only doing what is RIGHT, 100% of the time, never "getting luck" as you put it, He is perfect, therefore He knows how to act rationally according to whatever....human beings however can let their emotions overpower them and act against their better judgement, but that's only because they are HUMANS with emotions. i still don't see how emotions ALONE are imperfect

for example, when Jesus was crucified, He obviously was in pain and shame, feeling sad....did He send angels to come down and save Him just because He had these emotions? no, He acted justly and permitted it to happen because it was right, in order to redeem humanity (or rather each one of us personally)

Yes they did, several times.

A very bad one.

Scientific proof??? There's no fucking proof for god period. So you can't bring in that argument. There's no scientific evidence that he exists in the first place. So to use an evidence argument for this is absurd.

According to one definition of the word evil, God created evil. Isaiah 45:7 says that God creates evil.

However according to another definition of evil, God does not create evil.

When it comes to the evil of sin, God is not the maker of golden idols. The gold that the idol is made out of is God's creation, but gold is not a sin. It's the misuse of the gold that is a sin. But the Bible makes it very clear that God does not create idols.

Sin is not God's creation. Sin is the misuse of God's creation, therefore it is man's creation, not God's.

However, when it comes to the evil of calamity and doom, God created calamity for Sodom and Gomorrah when He rained fire and brimstone down upon them, when he flooded the world in the days of Noah, and when He sent 10 plagues against Egypt. So yes, according to this definition of evil, God creates evil.

No, because hate is associated with evil. There was no evil or hate before the forbidden fruit so how could god hate when the devil created hate.

uman emotions are emotions...there is nothing wrong with emotions itself...we are created in God's image after all, we were initially perfect

God (probably) does act upon emotions, but He is only doing what is RIGHT, 100% of the time, never "getting luck" as you put it, He is perfect, therefore He knows how to act rationally according to whatever....human beings however can let their emotions overpower them and act against their better judgement, but that's only because they are HUMANS with emotions. i still don't see how emotions ALONE are imperfect

for example, when Jesus was crucified, He obviously was in pain and shame, feeling sad....did He send angels to come down and save Him just because He had these emotions? no, He acted justly and permitted it to happen because it was right, in order to redeem humanity (or rather each one of us personally)

so why do you have to say "PERIOD" when we didn't even get to that yet? it shows your closed mindedness since we didn't even finish debating for you to look at all the facts, yet you bluntly insist that there is no proof ...i told you before to have religious conviction, you need to have a willingness to know the truth

no it isnt, i explained how it would work, but youre not mentioning it, but w/e

human emotions are emotions...there is nothing wrong with emotions itself...we are created in God's image after all, we were initially perfect
God (probably) does act upon emotions, but He is only doing what is RIGHT, 100% of the time, never "getting luck" as you put it, He is perfect, therefore He knows how to act rationally according to whatever....human beings however can let their emotions overpower them and act against their better judgement, but that's only because they are HUMANS with emotions. i still don't see how emotions ALONE are imperfect
for example, when Jesus was crucified, He obviously was in pain and shame, feeling sad....did He send angels to come down and save Him just because He had these emotions? no, He acted justly and permitted it to happen because it was right, in order to redeem humanity (or rather each one of us personally)

huh? no they didn't, not to the answer i gave above

God exists outside of the realms of science, so what kind of an idiot would use scientific tools to detect him??

i cant believe this....i gave you an answer a few pages ago for a question that you asked me on why the Bible God exists, but you didn't bother to respond, but moved onto other subjects like emotions...i thought we were tackling one subject at a time

emotions are primitive forms of consciousness a supreme being whit a supreme consciousness acting on primitive instincts is ridiculous in PSYCHOLOGICAL studies we learned that emotions plus divinity equals incompatible study some psychology man

What the fuck are they supposed to respond to????????? If you want a response be fucking clear when you want one. Construct your sentence accordingly so that people no you want a response.

Does the bible say that?

WHAT THE FUCK ARE TALKING ABOUT???????!?!?!?!?!?

What qualifies as a response?

I responded several times in different ways. One of the ways was explaining the emotion and psychology aspect.

The "evidence" (prophecies) you showed me are not valid because they are vulnerable to misinterpretation, and therefore any truth that there may be, is smeared by the hand of the interpreter. I don't want to go into this because this is away from psychology and will be explained when we move Epistemology and Philology.

By the way I didn't ask why the bible exists, I asked how do you know the bible is right. Big difference.

emotions are primitive forms of consciousness a supreme being whit a supreme consciousness acting on primitive instincts is ridiculous in PSYCHOLOGICAL studies we learned that emotions plus divinity equals incompatible study some psychology man

so why should emotions be primitive forms of consciousness/instincts when they are FROm God and we are made in God's image...? who says emotions are imperfect when God created us perfect with emotions?

lol, calm down...i asked for a response not from you, and i got one, so you dont need to get in this saying im not clear when im not even talking to you

correction: "...are YOU talking about?" Please construct your sentences accordingly to make them more clear.

nothing complex

when really, a valid response would be you elaborating and going into "epistemology" and "philology", but you went on and posted videos of on other topics and asking other questions

huh? I said Bible GOD, not Bible, reread what i said, its the exactly as you asked

So my basic question is (just to give me a place to start): How do you know the Bible's God exists?

The psychology that I was getting into was an attempt to explain how religious folks "invent" these prophecies.

or if im still being a pain asking for clarification, we can move on like i-guy mentioned....