Why are you even supporting government intervention? the government actually has the biggest ponzi scheme in history

I was gonna continue further but thats too many questions at one time. You can just hit me with them after we go thru each topic.

That's what an anarchist society would be, yes.

The mistake here is that you mention 2 different things and confuse them as analogous. A manager, or any other boss for that matter, can easily have their job broken up and handled by employees in a flat structure. There are many companies that provide ample evidence that this is true. As for doctors and other specialized jobs for that matter, no one would even try to claim that they deserve equal pay to a janitor. However, with the example of a Bill Gates, yes, it is understandable that his business savvy and many other aspects make him a commodity and because of that he deserves elevated pay. However, to claim that he deserves the ridiculous amount that he is worth is a crime to the highest degree. No one deserves billions of dollars. Take the company Mondragon for example. They employ 90,000 people and were in the MAKE top ten along with IKEA. Mondragon is a flat structured worker cooperative based in the Basque, Spain region whose chairman only makes the equivalent of about $150,000 a year. He still performs his job to the best of his ability without need of extra money and Mondragon is only growing. This goes back to my question: if you believe our country would be better off without hierarchy, why don't you feel the same about the companies within the economy?

Maybe that's because 99.999999999999% of the time it is a bad thing.

Yes, I'm well aware of the ponzi scheme the government is running. What's ironic is that it is a bi-product of capitalism more so than of the government.

I just want to make this clear though. As an anarchist, in no way do I support government intervention. I support government intervention against corruption within major corporations just as the US supported Communist Russia against the Nazi's in Germany -- two enemies who have a common enemy become friends. The difference here, however, is that I see no need to actually support the government as I don't feel that the government is necessary to help regulate such companies. This can be handled more efficiently at the social level by the people as a decentralized collective, separated into syndicates. Both of us, however, are against the capitalist ponzi scheme though. The difference, however, is that you don't seem to see that the government and it's officials have very little say in what goes on in the US. The government isn't this "big bad government" that many make it out to be, however, it is a barrier in the way of giving the power to the people. It is sort of a helpless, inanimate object, such as a shoe, and corporate America is the big bad dog who came along a bit later and dragged it around everywhere that it wanted to. Businesses will not self regulate. The situation will only get worse if we let anarcho-capitalism come in. The system you propose is bound to drive even more distance between the upper and lower class and it is also bound to further dissolve the middle class, most of the people from the middle class becoming lower class citizens. Capitalism is a system that inherently perpetuates this and I have a feeling that you won't object to this, which kind of scares me about your ideas.

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Anarcho-Capitalism is greed manifested. It is completely economic survival of the fittest (most wealthy). And the little (non-wealthy) people get crushed under the weight of the system. You say Socialism is unproductive???? What is your definition of productive??? Producing millions of tons of useless crap that becomes obsolete in six months and a society of human robots who become intellectually shallow because the industry wants them that way so that they remain robots and because they have no time to expand on life and intellect. Is that what you want? If that's what you want then you want an Idiot America that depends on greed and desperation to survive. Anarcho-Capitalism allows no time for the careful nurturing of ideas and ideologies, its to busy trying to make money and engaging in completely meaningless arbitrary endeavors to make that money. Its a black hole man. Why would you defend that? Study up on the history of capitalism and you'll see the origins of the dehumanization and the intellectual drift that we are seeing today. It becomes quite clear once you look into history.

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So i don't quite understand what you mean...

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Secondly, my "ideal society" has never come about. And I don't know what you mean by humans not fitting in natural order. When we do something wrong, we know we do something wrong. We don't need someone else to tell us.

Ask anyone who know anything about farming they will tell you one must never place 2 bulls in the same kraal they will kill each other. Because the strongest bull takes all the cows.

Ants have a social heirarchy...

Btw, 8, just stop. You're making us look bad lol

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We have to transcend these natural developments in the original natural order and create an order of a higher kind. 8 is right, we have become parasites. But parasites grow weak and dependent, until one day something begins to feed on them. That will happen to us. The greed that capitalism has created will do this to us. It will create an intellectual and physical reversal. Not only will greed do this to us, but many other repercussions of capitalism will as well.

Jesus christ just reading the fucking Communist Manifesto and watch Zeitgeist Addendum.

No , and i recommend a book called Mutual Aid : A Factor Of Evolution . You should read it if your so interested in the animal world . And ants don't have social hierarchy

I completely agree Queens in bee nests don't have decision making power over their peers Queens are just for procreation and nothing else . This phrase " Queen " was coined by us the actual Queen does nothing but eat and shit babies . No where in the animal kingdom decision making power is delegated somewhere

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Let's define capitalism - an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market.

no where is there talk of hierarchy. There's a method of running a business in a structure that involves a hierarchy but that does not mean we favor it, you are just free to use that method.

What ?? how can you define an entire political theory based on a definition ?. The word "anarchy" is from the Greek, prefix an (or a), meaning "not," "the want of," "the absence of," or "the lack of", plus archos, meaning "a ruler," "director", "chief," "person in charge," or "authority." Or, as Peter Kropotkin put it, Anarchy comes from the Greek words meaning "contrary to authority." ANARCHY can't be compatible whit CAPITALISM even if you base it only on a definition . Capitalism involves authority and hierarchy and creates it private property rights must be protected . Rules and RULERS must be created by a state do protect them. I want to hear other arguments . There is no private property whit out a state .