Russia should have had enough resources for your society to work.

Also, I'll restate a post I think you may have accidentally skipped:

Russia should have had enough resources for your society to work.

Yes, when you have to operate within a country that is capitalist and the government of that country forces you to rely on their assistance, of course your society has to go the way of the rest of society. It's not like they were allowed to do as they pleased. They still had to follow most of the laws that the Israeli government imposed on them.

1. Any system has it's faults. The fact that this particular system lasted over 100 years in a primitive world speaks volumes in it's own right.
2. You still haven't given us any justification to show that your proposed system would avoid the tyranny of majority. While Greece's main problem was the tyranny of the majority, we have shown how our system would avoid it. Participatory economics prevents the tyranny of the majority by allowing people a say only in proportion to how much the decision will effect them.

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While it is true that the long term effects of Spanish anarchism were never realized as it was crushed before there was a chance to realize them, there have been extensive writings done in regards to the revolution itself including one of Ernest Hemingway's most well known novels, "For Whom The Bell Tolls". Also, the majority of the people who spoke about their experience as a Spanish citizen during the revolution spoke highly about it.

Lol ok, just ignore the fact that they are working and cooperating in spite of the fact that capitalism is built on a concept of competition which is in direct opposition to the idea of cooperation. That means that these businesses are working in spite of the capitalism they are forced to endure, not because of capitalism. Cooperatives help other cooperatives survive. It is the prerogative of capitalist businesses to become the top dog at the expense of other capitalist businesses, effectively seeking to form a virtual monopoly (if they can). Just like any competitive fighter, the goal is to knock out all competition until there is no one left to compete. Cooperation encourages teamwork at all levels allowing all businesses in a given market to continue to exist. If I decide to enter a market, therefore, other businesses in that market, given a capitalist system, automatically aim to compete with my business and effectively knock my business out of the market. In a cooperative economic society, businesses within the market that I'm trying to open my business in encourage me to open my business and even lend my business assistance. This is exactly what cooperatives do even today in spite of the fact that they must operate in a competitive environment. The reason it works is because, as I've already shown numerous times, cooperation is superior to competition, so even in a competitive environment, cooperative businesses triumph.

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2: I have evidence stating it wasn't actually an anarchist society. And also that many ppl were coerced into joining the collectives.

"Consumers' and producers' councils
To implement the decision making principle, a parecon would be organized in consumers' and producers' councils. Many individuals would participate in both types of councils. These would be the respective equivalent of workers' councils. Consumers are individuals or households that consume goods and services generated within the economy. ... In microeconomics, production is the act of making things, in particular the act of making products that will be traded or sold commercially. ... A workers council is a council, or deliberative body, composed of working class or proletarian members. ...

Geographically, these councils would probably be nested with neighborhood councils, ward councils, city or regional councils and a country council. Decisions would be achieved either through consensus decision-making, majority votes or through other means compatible with the principle. The most appropriate method would be decided on by each council. Neighbourhood is also a term in topology. ... A city council is the most common style of legislative government in a city or town. ... Consensus decision-making is a decision process that not only seeks the agreement of most participants, but also to resolve or mitigate the objections of the minority to achieve the most agreeable decision. ...

Local decisions like the construction of a playground might be made in the ward or city consumers' council, probably interacting with both city and countrywide producers' councils. Countrywide decisions, like the construction of a high-speed mass transportation system, would be discussed by the country consumers' council, possibly interacting with a city producers' council in the city where the materials are produced, or countrywide or international producers' councils. Cranes are essential in large construction projects, such as this skyscraper In project architecture and civil engineering, construction is the building or assembly of any infrastructure. ... Combination playground structure for small children; slides, climbers (stairs in this case), playhouse A playground is an area designed for children to play freely. ... A taxi serving as a bus Public transport comprises all transport systems in which the passengers do not travel in their own vehicles. ...

The producers' councils would probably correspond to workplace councils in each workplace and similar workplaces would group into nested councils on successively larger geographical and linguistic scales. Map of the Earth ( Medium) ( Large 2 MB) Table of geography, hydrography, and navigation, from the 1728 Cyclopaedia. ... Linguistics is the scientific study of human language, and someone who engages in this study is called a linguist. ... "

How can one call themselves an anarchist and support something like this? How are councils not forms of govn't??

Because they don't involve hierarchy , centralization , bureaucracy etc . ? again J Breakz for an anarchist you don't have a vague idea what a state is and how it functions .

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Umm, how would my system even have tyranny of the majority? It's individualist anarchism not collective anarchism like anarcho-communism or anarcho-syndicalism.

It will have the absolute tyranny of the minority . Capitalism means class division , the accumulation of capital means centralization of wealth into the hands of those who own all means of production . Economic centralization is inherently political centralization . J Breakz your killing me dude . The free market can't stop class division and accumulation of capital it makes it bigger and wider .

leave individualist anarchism out of this because you really lack anarchist history and theory . Ever heard of Benjamin Tucker ? he often praised left anarchism check this for example http://praxeology.net/BT-SSA.htm. Plus most individualist anarchists are still on the left most of them advocate Mutualism in the Proudhonian sense .

Catalonia was an anarchist society . Catalonia was virtually under workers control for 3 years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_Catalonia . Man George Orwell would roll in his grave if he heard what you said .

Also listen to the anarchists that were there please . Watch these 2 great documentaries .

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Catalonia was an anarchist society . Catalonia was virtually under workers control for 3 years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_Catalonia . Man George Orwell would roll in his grave if he heard what you said .

Also listen to the anarchists that were there please . Watch these 2 great documentaries .

Do you have evidence that ALL or nearly all the factories increased their product output?

What rulings ? if everything is based on free association ? and also individuals have a say in each decision proportionate to the degree to which they are affected by it.

One has the same authority over his private property and over his workers . Large Firms or Corporations act exactly like STATES they have decision making power over a given territory as you suggest they have centralization , hierarchy , bureaucracy . Plus a minority is bound to RULE in anarcho-capitalism the class nature of capitalism creates that .

Oh sorry . Check this then http://praxeology.net/BT-SSA.htm

Most of them are the actual anarchists of the CNT-FAI that helped the collectivization process . I personally meet several anarchists from these 2 documentaries . Most of them are still active in the CNT-FAI and the IWA which i am part off

Dolgoff quotes the French anarchist historian Gaston Leval (who was an active participant) to summarize the anarchist conception of the social revolution:

In Spain during almost three years, despite a civil war that took a million lives, despite the opposition of the political parties (republicans, left and right Catalan separatists, socialists, Communists, Basque and Valencian regionalists, petty bourgeoisie, etc.), this idea of libertarian communism was put into effect. Very quickly more than 60% of the land was collectively cultivated by the peasants themselves, without landlords, without bosses, and without instituting capitalist competition to spur production. In almost all the industries, factories, mills, workshops, transportation services, public services, and utilities, the rank and file workers, their revolutionary committees, and their syndicates reorganized and administered production, distribution, and public services without capitalists, high salaried managers, or the authority of the state.

Even more: the various agrarian and industrial collectives immediately instituted economic equality in accordance with the essential principle of communism, 'From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs.' They coordinated their efforts through free association in whole regions, created new wealth, increased production (especially in agriculture), built more schools, and bettered public services. They instituted not bourgeois formal democracy but genuine grass roots functional libertarian democracy, where each individual participated directly in the revolutionary reorganization of social life. They replaced the war between men, 'survival of the fittest,' by the universal practice of mutual aid, and replaced rivalry by the principle of solidarity…

This experience, in which about eight million people directly or indirectly participated, opened a new way of life to those who sought an alternative to anti-social capitalism on the one hand, and totalitarian state bogus socialism on the other.

Despite the critics clamoring for "maximum efficiency" rather than revolutionary methods, anarchist collectives often produced more than before the collectivization. In Aragon, for instance, the productivity increased by 20%.

Much of Spain's economy was put under worker control; in anarchist strongholds like Catalonia, the figure was as high as 75%

The Anarchist Collectives: Workers' Self-Management in the Spanish Revolution, 1936-1939 By Sam Dolgoff

The CNT in the Spanish Revolution volumes 1 , 2 and 3 by José Peirats ( a Spanish anarchist who fought in the Civil War he was also an activist, journalist and historian. He was a long-standing member of the Confederación Nacional del Trabajo (CNT) and at one point edited its newspaper, Solidaridad Obrera ('Workers Solidarity'). He was also a member of the federation of anarchist affinity groups, the Federación Anarquista Ibérica (FAI).)

Homage To Catalonia by George Orwell

Anarcho-syndicalism, Libertarian Communism, and the State: The CNT in Zaragoza and Aragon, 1930-1937. By Graham Kelsey

Collectives in the Spanish Revolution by Gaston Leval .

All these books are lying no ?