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| eboyd |
Date: Saturday, 09/Jan/10, 11:10 PM | Message # 121 |
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| I_Guy |
Date: Saturday, 09/Jan/10, 11:13 PM | Message # 122 |
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Quote (eboyd) anarcho-communism isn't a failed idea either though.
Agreed.
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Sunday, 10/Jan/10, 7:49 PM | Message # 123 |
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Quote (I_Guy) Regardless of what conditioned her to think as she does now, there is no gene for motivation. That is the point, everything you have brought up isn't proof for a motivation gene. All it is, is your confusion.
I think you misunderstood me. I never said anything about a motivation gene. I said the gene pool of the unmotivated people. But anyways, it pretty much boils down to work or starve.
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Sunday, 10/Jan/10, 7:54 PM | Message # 124 |
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Quote (eboyd) PROOF????? what anarcho-communist societies have there been, and what libertarian socialist (anarcho-communist, anarcho-socialist, anarcho-syndicalist, anarcho-primitivist, etc.) society has failed because of its economy??? don't even try using the Spanish Revolution of 1936-39 either. that shit was crushed by force.
 there haven't, exactly why they're a failure lol I meant to say attempted anarcho-communist societies.
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| I_Guy |
Date: Sunday, 10/Jan/10, 10:51 PM | Message # 125 |
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Quote (J-Breakz) But anyways, it pretty much boils down to work or starve.
It shouldn't be such drastic servitude, especially in this day and age.
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Sunday, 10/Jan/10, 11:11 PM | Message # 126 |
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Quote (I_Guy) It shouldn't be such drastic servitude, especially in this day and age.
Hm, so what how would your society deal with the situtation?
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| I_Guy |
Date: Monday, 11/Jan/10, 1:17 AM | Message # 127 |
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Quote (J-Breakz) Hm, so what how would your society deal with the situtation?
Enslave technology.
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| eboyd |
Date: Monday, 11/Jan/10, 5:23 AM | Message # 128 |
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Quote (J-Breakz) there haven't, exactly why they're a failure lol I meant to say attempted anarcho-communist societies. Lol the crushing of the Spanish Revolution by force in 1939 is hardly proof that it won't work and are we going to completely forget the success of thousands of collectives (which, btw, employ more people around the world than big business does according to the ICA website), the kibbutzes, housing co-ops, and many other forms of cooperatively planned housing projects?
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| eboyd |
Date: Monday, 11/Jan/10, 5:26 AM | Message # 129 |
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And I'll be nice and forget to mention 100+ years of Greek democracy
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Monday, 11/Jan/10, 12:40 PM | Message # 130 |
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Quote (I_Guy) Enslave technology.
no I_Guy, in the mean time, buddy. Before we create the technology, how are you going to deal with the situation?
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| I_Guy |
Date: Monday, 11/Jan/10, 3:50 PM | Message # 131 |
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Quote (J-Breakz) no I_Guy, in the mean time, buddy. Before we create the technology, how are you going to deal with the situation?
A transition to the enslavement of technology. Solutions are self evident when we begin to optimize. Solutions aren't possible while we remain stupid.
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Monday, 11/Jan/10, 6:02 PM | Message # 132 |
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Quote (I_Guy) A transition to the enslavement of technology. Solutions are self evident when we begin to optimize. Solutions aren't possible while we remain stupid.
What will be done with the workers before and while there is a transition to the enslavement of technology? Stop avoiding the question.
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Monday, 11/Jan/10, 6:12 PM | Message # 133 |
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Quote (eboyd) Lol the crushing of the Spanish Revolution by force in 1939 is hardly proof
There's little to no evidence of whether or not anarchism during the spanish revolution was even successful before the crushing of it. Quote (eboyd) we going to completely forget the success of thousands of collectives (which, btw, employ more people around the world than big business does according to the ICA website) Quote (eboyd) the kibbutzes
It's kibbutz right? Yeah I actually read up about it, what's so great? They actually ended up starting to go away from collectives and putting in a lot of capitalist ideas in their society.
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| I_Guy |
Date: Monday, 11/Jan/10, 7:13 PM | Message # 134 |
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Quote (J-Breaks) Before we create the technology,
Actually the technology is already available. It is the infrastructure that needs to be the focus. Quote (J-Breakz) What will be done with the workers before and while there is a transition to the enslavement of technology?
Severe social and political reconstruction. Free education is first key. Get the collective consciousness on the same level intellectually. People will have to grow accustomed to sacrifice. That will only be possible through education. Then we can move on. Jobs will slowly be eliminated as we introduce higher efficiency technologies (just like it would happen with capitalism in the near future, except education would be free, so it will be much easier for people to go to school and get better jobs to compensate for the loss of the simpler jobs). The first technologies will have to be applied to the food and health industry. Free, vouchers will take the place of money for necessities, that way if some people can't work they can still survive. Eventually we'll be able to move away from money. There will have to be a trade in system to get the money off the streets. When people die, their money dies with them. Different ways to eliminate money. The government will have to be big at first but then shrink eventually to nothing as the transition goes on. Similarly, corporate power will be shrinking as well, if not participating in the transition themselves. Corporations would be the biggest opposition. I highly doubt that most common workers would oppose the transition as long as they had available necessities of life. Government would have to slowly compensate corporations in some way (in the short term), the people would have to deconstruct big business through a social current, the government would really have to take over for a while to establish social control. And much much more!!! lol Although, this isn't the place to discuss the Venus Project. I created a thread for such discussion.
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Monday, 11/Jan/10, 7:47 PM | Message # 135 |
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So what would be done to a person who is absolutely incapable of producing anything useful or someone who refuses to cooperate? are they still given what they're needed to live or are they left off to starve?
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