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People Knocking Jay Z
Menace Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:25 PM | Message # 151

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hes saying hes got skills as kweli has lyrics

its a reply to a line by kweli

"if lyrics sold, truth be told, id probaly be rich as jay z"

WHAT ?? from when simple words have total opposite meaning man stop interpreting shit like religious people interpret the bible biggrin If skills sold note the IF in plain English what that IF means?? IF but they don't


Menace Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:27 PM | Message # 152

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man you people instead of pouring that money into Israeli tall people's pockets like Most Def puts it start supporting some new and independent shit when someone is posting new artists or underground artists nobody is posting comments but when people create threads about Jay or Pac or whatever everybody is jumping man YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET OVER IT ITS CALLED EVOLUTION !! biggrin

ill Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:28 PM | Message # 153

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what dont you get about what i just said?

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Menace Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:30 PM | Message # 154

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what dont you get about what i just said?

the fucking dude said IF SKILLS sold implying that lyrics don't sell no? so he aint doing it so lyrically so he can sell man I'm over this shit I'm over making these corporate cats ass big I'm out of this discussion


SnoopG79 Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:33 PM | Message # 155

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man you people instead of pouring that money into Israeli tall people's pockets like Most Def puts it start supporting some new and independent shit when someone is posting new artists or underground artists nobody is posting comments but when people create threads about Jay or Pac or whatever everybody is jumping man YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET OVER IT ITS CALLED EVOLUTION !!

This I can agree with but the fact is we're ALL guilty of talking about pop culture because that normally what you see nowadays.

BTW, Jay also said too, "When your sense got that much in common & you been hustlin since/Your inception, fuck perception, go with what makes sense/Since I know what i'm up against/We as rappers must decide what's most important/And I can't help the poor if i'm one of them/So I got rich and gave back, to me that's the win, win/The next time you see the homie and his rims spin/Just know my mind is workin just like them
(The rims that is)"

So hey, I guess all I can just say is take those quotes as you see it.


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ill Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:35 PM | Message # 156

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yeah fuck the mainstream!! dry

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Menace Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:36 PM | Message # 157

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BTW, Jay also said too, "When your sense got that much in common & you been hustlin since/Your inception, fuck perception, go with what makes sense/Since I know what i'm up against/We as rappers must decide what's most important/And I can't help the poor if i'm one of them/So I got rich and gave back, to me that's the win, win/The next time you see the homie and his rims spin/Just know my mind is workin just like them
(The rims that is)"

So hey, I guess all I can just say is take those quotes as you see it.

yeah get rich and give back where ?? Immortal Technique built farms in South America and built hospitals in Afghanistan what jay did?? he made billions of dollar contracts

ohh and i know its POP CULTURE but that's what we want to divorce here pop culture create something else we see it everywhere we want to see something new

and people get over it !!!!!


PNobleDaLyricist Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:39 PM | Message # 158

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he gave back 2 marcy

he just cant go back dere if he wants 2 stay alive now lol


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ill Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:39 PM | Message # 159

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you have completely missed the point, i said jay deserves respect because of his early releases and you flip it to we are dick riding jay z and who sold out and is making money which he shouldnt do

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Lord_Meth Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:40 PM | Message # 160

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he gave back 2 marcy
he just cant go back dere if he wants 2 stay alive now lol

LMAO!!!!!!!


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Menace Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:42 PM | Message # 161

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you have completely missed the point, i said jay deserves respect because of his early releases and you flip it to we are dick riding jay z and who sold out and is making money which he shouldnt do

that was not to you and at the beginning of this convo i already said yes he released something good in the PAST yes now we MUST GET OVER IT !!! he is not relevant in the hip hop circles anymore he is a pop icon


SnoopG79 Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:43 PM | Message # 162

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yeah get rich and give back where ?? Immortal Technique built farms in South America and built hospitals in Afghanistan what jay did?? he made billions of dollar contracts

Dude, Jay gave out water to countries in Africa who can't even GET fresh water & gave 1,000,000 dollars to Red-Cross for Hurricane Katrina fund (which was a mistake & he even said as much on "Minority Report" off "Kingdom Come"). I'm also pretty sure he's done other things as well.

You don't know Jay from dime a dozen & neither do I so lets not make him out to be some bad guy.

& yes IT HAS done great things.


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ill Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:44 PM | Message # 163

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thats the point he is relevant and should be because of his previous releases

he sold out so now nothing hes done is hip hop?


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Menace Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:47 PM | Message # 164

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Dude, Jay gave out water to countries in Africa who can't even GET fresh water & gave 1,000,000 dollars to Red-Cross for Hurricane Katrina fund (which was a mistake & he even said as much on "Minority Report" off "Kingdom Come"). I'm also pretty sure he's done other things as well.

You don't know Jay from dime a dozen & neither do I so lets not make him out to be some bad guy.

& yes IT HAS done great things.

yeah a multinational CEO gives a mil that's not a big deal a underground artist built shit around and he underground that's RESPECTABLE and get over Jay-z please its called evolution let hip hop breath for a moment


SnoopG79 Date: Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:50 PM | Message # 165

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yeah a multinational CEO gives a mil that's not a big deal a underground artist built shit around and he underground that's RESPECTABLE and get over Jay-z please its called evolution let hip hop breath for a moment

There's no need to get insultive. I'm just stating an opinion, just as you are. No need for snide remarks.

Just because I'm defending him doesn't mean I have to "get over" him & anyone who gives back should be an act that is considered "RESPECTABLE"

See, this is what I was talking about in my first post.


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Message edited by SnoopG79 - Sunday, 15/Feb/09, 5:51 PM
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